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1. kkaske ◴[] No.45367458[source]
If Snapdragon (or ARM players in general) wanted to challenge x86 and Apple dominance, do they need to compete in the exact same arena? Could they carve out a niche (example: ultra-efficient always-on machines) and then expand?
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2. mortsnort ◴[] No.45367589[source]
Apple chips are ARM chips.
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3. 0x457 ◴[] No.45367645[source]
Are you aware of countless SoCs meant for use in smartphones and below? This is them expanding.
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4. kkaske ◴[] No.45367740[source]
Exactly! That makes this move all the more interesting. The smartphone SoC market is saturated, and margins are shrinking. Laptops/PCs give Qualcomm a chance to leverage its IP in a higher-ASP segment. Expanding is logical, but the competitive bar is way higher.
5. adrr ◴[] No.45367771[source]
Also a bunch of Chromebooks with MediaTek chips.
6. kkaske ◴[] No.45367805[source]
“ARM chip” is a pretty broad umbrella. Apple’s M-series is based on the ARM ISA, the microarchitecture is Apple’s own design, and the SoCs are built with very different cache hierarchies, memory bandwidth, and custom accelerators. I was simply using Apple as an example of another big player.
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7. zeusk ◴[] No.45368059{3}[source]
Well so is the snapdragon X elite, including the older snapdragons (anyone remember scorpion cores on QSD8x50?)