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    US airlines are pushing to remove protections for passengers and add more fees

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    663 points duxup | 13 comments | 24 Sep 25 12:30 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    egonschiele ◴[24 Sep 25 14:00 UTC] No.45360538[source]▶
    > Family Seating Guarantees: Under current regulations, airlines must ensure that families with young children are seated together without additional charges. This would no longer be guaranteed under the new proposal, meaning families could face extra costs just to sit next to one another.

    This one is wild. You want to sit next to somebody's crying 2 year old? Go nuts. Change their diaper while you're at it.

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    itopaloglu83 ◴[24 Sep 25 14:09 UTC] No.45360649[source]▶
    Asking families if their teenager could be seated separately is one thing, but knowing the airlines, they might as well start seating the toddlers in the overhead luggage compartments.
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    1. bthrn ◴[24 Sep 25 14:17 UTC] No.45360772[source]▶
    The most profitable way to fill a plane would be to knock everybody out and just pile them up in the fuselage.
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    2. SoftTalker ◴[24 Sep 25 14:30 UTC] No.45360957[source]▶
    Don't forget that some airlines seriously looked at standing "seats" for short hop flights.
    3. ceejayoz ◴[24 Sep 25 14:44 UTC] No.45361162[source]▶
    The Fifth Element solution!
    4. mrinterweb ◴[24 Sep 25 15:42 UTC] No.45361927[source]▶
    You and I should talk :) I've been thinking of this ever since seeing the movie "The Incredible Burt Wonderstone". He uses a sleeping gas on his audience packs them into a moving truck and "magically" transports his audience to a new location. Tada! Basically same idea, but substitute moving truck with jet.
    5. rtkwe ◴[24 Sep 25 15:43 UTC] No.45361942[source]▶
    Knocking someone out safely isn't cheap. There's a reason anesthesiologists are so highly paid. Just ask the hostages from Dubrovka Theater [0] how improvising an anesthetic gas can go (spoiler: you'll need a medium/ouija board).

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

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    6. nostrademons ◴[24 Sep 25 16:04 UTC] No.45362276[source]▶
    So then just pile them up without knocking them out.
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    7. nemomarx ◴[24 Sep 25 16:16 UTC] No.45362464{3}[source]▶
    Can you fit more people in horizontal than if they stood up and you had little straps to hang onto like a subway?
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    8. tavavex ◴[24 Sep 25 16:38 UTC] No.45362785[source]▶
    That's still way too inefficient, it leaves so many gaps and barely tiles the space. As soon as we get our hands on full reconstruction, you can bet the airlines will require everyone to be ground into a slurry and pumped into the fuselage like a huge tank, and get reassembled at the destination.
    9. nostrademons ◴[24 Sep 25 16:42 UTC] No.45362838{4}[source]▶
    In theory yes because you can use the space at the top that would otherwise be above people's heads. No guarantee they get to their destination alive though.
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    10. bluGill ◴[24 Sep 25 17:13 UTC] No.45363238[source]▶
    Only a new airplane. Most planes are designed for a lot of air and couldn't fly with as many people as can physically fit inside. Cargo airplanes carefully watch this factor. As a passenger I've been on airplanes that took off with empty seats even though there were people on standby wanting to get on because with the weather they couldn't fly a full plane.
    11. butlike ◴[24 Sep 25 17:51 UTC] No.45363715{4}[source]▶
    You can just lay them ass-to-mouth and then stack them. Come on, the slave ships and Dutch East India company taught us that one.
    12. Yeul ◴[24 Sep 25 21:27 UTC] No.45366171[source]▶
    Imagine waking up on your 20 hour flight to Tokyo early...
    13. rtkwe ◴[25 Sep 25 15:09 UTC] No.45373604{5}[source]▶
    Once you include space to get people to the restroom though and to allow them to breath during the flight I think you get a higher density while standing vs laying down.