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eadmund ◴[] No.45359858[source]
> [Elimination of] Automatic Refunds for Cancellations

Does this mean when the passenger cancels or when the airline cancels? If it’s when the passenger chooses to cancel, this seems fine and fair: he paid for a flight; he chose not to take it. If it’s the latter, then it seems very unfair.

> Transparency of Fees

This seems patently unfair. Folks should know what they’re going to be paying ahead of time.

> Family Seating Guarantees

On the one hand, this seems fair. If you want to sit together, pay for that privilege. It doesn’t make sense to tax every other passenger for it. OTOH, families are a net benefit to society, so maybe it’s right for everyone else to pitch in a bit. Also, nothing is worse than the folks who didn’t pay up ahead of time who bug one, ‘may we switch seats so we can sit together?’ So perhaps free family seating makes life easier for everyone.

> [Elimination of] Accessibility Protections for Disabled Passengers

I wonder what that actually means. It could be fair (for example, folks too large for one seat purchasing two) or unfair.

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jjcob ◴[] No.45360106[source]
> If you want to sit together, pay for that privilege

This is evil. There is no cost to the airline to put people who booked together next to another. It's seems like Mafia-tactic to seat people apart from another unless they pony up another $500 in upgrades.

I refuse to fly with United. I understand that there may not be 10 adjacent seats when flying with a big group, but spreading out a family on purpose just so you are more likely to buy an upgrade is evil.

I understand paying for checked luggage because luggage handling costs money. But purposely making the experience worse just so you can charge money for upgrades is evil.

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hedora ◴[] No.45360176[source]
Checked luggage charges are mostly about price discrimination and not cost savings.

They also free up the cargo hold so they can transport mail. Speaking of which, did you know the TSA screening area is a farce?

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1. lumost ◴[] No.45360474[source]
I’ve always wondered if it would be cheaper to just have everyone check their bags and eliminate the overhead bin. I wouldn’t be surprised if airline boarding was sped up by 2-3x this way.
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2. xur17 ◴[] No.45360732[source]
A lot of airlines have started doing this by "gate checking" bags.
3. fwip ◴[] No.45360778[source]
I've heard that the boarding process itself is rarely the limiting factor in flights. They're usually waiting on other plane-related things (refueling? Pre-flight checks? I can't recall the details).

If it were, they probably wouldn't be doing their 8-group boarding process that takes 20 minutes just to let people start boarding, because gate-time is expensive for them.

4. lstodd ◴[] No.45360837[source]
OTOH it would overwhelm baggage reclaim and everyone will get stuck there instead.
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5. 8organicbits ◴[] No.45361088[source]
Flying with an infant, I'm very happy I can bring a diaper bag and other essentials on board.
6. gpderetta ◴[] No.45361119[source]
that's a problem for the airport. Faster turnaround for the airline though!
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7. rescbr ◴[] No.45361432[source]
As a person who regularly flies international with just a carry-on bag, I very much prefer to get out of the airport with my bag in 20 minutes after I leave the plane vs waiting who knows how long for it to arrive and hope that somebody didn't break it/into it.

Newer planes/retrofitted ones with larger overhead bins with space for everybody are the solution.

8. lstodd ◴[] No.45361492{3}[source]
nope. airport gets overwhelmed, aircraft get stuck because of processing, airline costs rise, ticket prices rise.

it's a single pipeline. every single one bottleneck has to be removed.

let's start with TSA.