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    eadmund ◴[] No.45359858[source]
    > [Elimination of] Automatic Refunds for Cancellations

    Does this mean when the passenger cancels or when the airline cancels? If it’s when the passenger chooses to cancel, this seems fine and fair: he paid for a flight; he chose not to take it. If it’s the latter, then it seems very unfair.

    > Transparency of Fees

    This seems patently unfair. Folks should know what they’re going to be paying ahead of time.

    > Family Seating Guarantees

    On the one hand, this seems fair. If you want to sit together, pay for that privilege. It doesn’t make sense to tax every other passenger for it. OTOH, families are a net benefit to society, so maybe it’s right for everyone else to pitch in a bit. Also, nothing is worse than the folks who didn’t pay up ahead of time who bug one, ‘may we switch seats so we can sit together?’ So perhaps free family seating makes life easier for everyone.

    > [Elimination of] Accessibility Protections for Disabled Passengers

    I wonder what that actually means. It could be fair (for example, folks too large for one seat purchasing two) or unfair.

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    1. DangitBobby ◴[] No.45359963[source]
    > If you want to sit together, pay for that privilege.

    Agreed. I think they leave too much money on the table. Use of window shades and lavatories could be behind a subscription service as well, with Sky Comfort+ affording you the privilege of multiple lavatory visits for those who have chosen the luxury IBS lifestyle. I'll let you know if I think of anything else those pesky airline passengers take for granted.

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    2. dillydogg ◴[] No.45360197[source]
    I think paying for water is a great opportunity. Maybe even the precious Biscoff. Especially for those cross country flights.
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    3. jghn ◴[] No.45360252[source]
    When I was young there was a discount airline named People Express that actually operated like this. In retrospect I imagine a lot of their nickel & diming would be considered standard these days, but back then it was revolutionary in both good & bad ways.
    4. az226 ◴[] No.45360265[source]
    $99 recline your seat fee
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    5. jghn ◴[] No.45360292[source]
    I'd pay $99 so that the person in front of me *can't* recline their seat
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    6. LPisGood ◴[] No.45360417[source]
    Spirit Airlines does not give free water. They will give you a cup of ice if you ask.
    7. masklinn ◴[] No.45360419[source]
    Are you a consultant for ryanair? If not, you should apply.

    They tried to straight up remove the window shades, but that’s currently required by Ireland so no dice. A toilet charge has been floated but is apparently difficult both legally and technically. However given Ryanair’s usual treatment of passengers with disabilities I have no doubt a passenger with IBS would have an experience.

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    8. asah ◴[] No.45360453{3}[source]
    I'd pay $99.01 so I can recline again... oh wait, I see where this is going...
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    9. SirMaster ◴[] No.45360514{3}[source]
    I prefer when they recline as that always seems to give me extra knee room which is the main place that I am most cramped. When they recline the part of the chair where my knees are slides forward about in inch or 2.
    10. masklinn ◴[] No.45360583[source]
    You’re way late to that party, Ryanair used to charge crew for water.
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    11. 0xAFFFF ◴[] No.45360668[source]
    Ryanair talks a lot, but they mostly do it for the free PR they inevitably get when people act shocked. Almost all of their proposal are unfeasible or downright illegal and all of them should be considered bullshit until proven otherwise.
    12. Bhilai ◴[] No.45360686[source]
    Agreed. There should be a fee for speaking too. Some passengers are really chatty. In today's world where free speech is already being curbed, Airlines should charge a free-speech fee for passengers who plan to converse.

    Separately there should be a fee for opening/closing the AC vent and using the overhead lights.

    13. dweinus ◴[] No.45360757{3}[source]
    Perfect, digital bidding app on each seat so you and the person in front of you can see who will pay more for reclining control.
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    14. cwmoore ◴[] No.45360847{4}[source]
    Why not? Let’s also reverse the auction, make a C2B market:

    I’d offer $300 roundtrip to Lahaina for 5-10 days, airlines? Any takers?

    15. granitepail ◴[] No.45360887[source]
    If ya made it through all three of the sentences they wrote, you'd see the comment you replied to came around to it being reasonable to give families a break on group seating.
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    16. eterm ◴[] No.45360902{3}[source]
    You get that for free on some Ryanair planes.
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    17. SoftTalker ◴[] No.45361018[source]
    You may not remember the coin-operated public toilets that used to be fairly common, especially in places like airports.
    18. DangitBobby ◴[] No.45361040[source]
    I did, in fact, manage to read all three. I just couldn't help but run with the devil's advocate premise.
    19. gpderetta ◴[] No.45361085[source]
    What about seats? You can fly standing perfectly fine. Sitting is a privilege (definitely ryanair does not propose this form time to time).

    > On the one hand, this seems fair. If you want to sit together [with your family], pay for that privilege

    This seems shortsighted. Airlines could get much more money if they added a fee to guarantee not to be seated beside a kid!

    20. devoutsalsa ◴[] No.45361489[source]
    I'm waiting for airlines to offer a budget First Class called Number Two Class. You get exclusive use the lavatory for the entirety of the flight.
    21. jeltz ◴[] No.45361508{4}[source]
    One of the few nice things about flying with them.
    22. el_benhameen ◴[] No.45362133{4}[source]
    Just know that when this inevitably happens, it’s now on you for putting it out into the universe.
    23. cosmicgadget ◴[] No.45362931{4}[source]
    I'd pay $99 to sit across the aisle from you two and giggle.
    24. dillydogg ◴[] No.45363923{3}[source]
    The forward thinking market leaders we deserve