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Is life a form of computation?

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karmakurtisaani ◴[] No.45353075[source]
I don't see the point of asking this question. Like, sure, all physical systems follow certain rules, so any such process will develop in a way that it look like a computation of an algorithm. Also, evolution itself is constantly optimizing organisms to best adapt to their environment, just like a computation.

So asking if life is a computation seems mostly like a semantic musing. Define "life" and define "computation", then see if they're the same.

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measurablefunc ◴[] No.45353368[source]
Evolution is not optimizing anything. What's happening in the biosphere is a process of mutation & selection, it's not optimization towards any particular goal or objective. Furthermore & slightly more abstractly, b/c of conservation of mass & energy, what's actually happening is re-organization of existing biomass into different life forms enabled by solar radiation.
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nathan_douglas ◴[] No.45353932[source]
I suppose I fail to see why evolution through natural selection is not optimizing. That was Darwin's big idea, right? That given heredity, selection, and variation you end up with life forms we'd consider optimized for their environments?

Or do you mean that optimization by definition must include intent, and evolution as a mindless process has no intentionality?

I'm just not sure what you're driving at.

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robotresearcher ◴[] No.45354354[source]
Optimization is by definition with respect to some cost function or goal. Evolution has none. Evolution happens, but has no goal.
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1. emmelaich ◴[] No.45355860[source]
I would say the goal is survival. Which happens at the cell/dna.. level (mostly) not the organism. (nod to Dawkins)
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2. the_af ◴[] No.45356529[source]
Evolution has no goals, not even survival. Evolution is something that happens. Some species survive for a while, others don't.

Think of it like saying water has the goal of flowing down the mountain along the path of least resistance. Of course it doesn't, it's just something that happens. There's no goal.

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3. emmelaich ◴[] No.45357485[source]
Perhaps it's an over-anthrophormic term.