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Designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization

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147 points Kye | 14 comments | 22 Sep 25 23:16 UTC | HN request time: 1.287s | source | bottom
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fuzzer371[dead post] ◴[22 Sep 25 23:36 UTC] No.45340972[source]▶
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1. elevation ◴[22 Sep 25 23:51 UTC] No.45341117[source]▶
The Patriot Act was named to imply that its supporters are patriotic and its detractors are not.

The name "Antifa" has similar implications, while similarly missing the mark.

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3. cobertos ◴[23 Sep 25 00:07 UTC] No.45341247{3}[source]▶
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4. amanaplanacanal ◴[23 Sep 25 00:07 UTC] No.45341260{3}[source]▶
Literal has more than one meaning. One is "figurative". Our brains want languages to hold still, but they keep moving! But even this old dog can learn new tricks.
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5. amanaplanacanal ◴[23 Sep 25 00:09 UTC] No.45341275{3}[source]▶
Sometimes it's better to be strategic instead of going all Leroy Jenkins on stuff.
6. fufxufxutc ◴[23 Sep 25 00:12 UTC] No.45341296{4}[source]▶
I hope you're joking.
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7. fufxufxutc ◴[23 Sep 25 00:15 UTC] No.45341331{4}[source]▶
Okay, but do any of the people you're describing as Nazis (Trump, MAGA voters, people who don't lean left, etc.) subscribe to the tenets of national socialism? Given that you say they're "literally" Nazis, you would think that they would.
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10. amanaplanacanal ◴[23 Sep 25 01:07 UTC] No.45341682{5}[source]▶
From Merriam Webster:

Can literally mean figuratively?

One of the definitions of literally that we provide is "in effect; virtually—used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Some find this objectionable on the grounds that it is not the primary meaning of the word, which we define as "in a way that uses the ordinary or primary meaning of a term or expression." However, this extended definition of literally is commonly used, and its meaning is not quite identical to that of figuratively ("with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal").

Is the extended use of literally new?

The "in effect; virtually" meaning of literally is not new. It has been in regular use since the 18th century and may be found in the writings of some of the most highly regarded writers of the 19th and early 20th centuries, including Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, Charlotte Brontë, and James Joyce.

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12. throwaway-11-1 ◴[23 Sep 25 01:36 UTC] No.45341851{5}[source]▶
the Charlie Kirk memorial march in Huntington Beach had guys literally wearing "national socialism" shirts so yeah some of them definitely do
13. myvoiceismypass ◴[23 Sep 25 02:03 UTC] No.45342016{5}[source]▶
Patriot Front was literally marching through Orange County like a week ago.

For a refresher: https://extremism.gwu.edu/patriot-front

14. cobertos ◴[23 Sep 25 04:54 UTC] No.45342980{5}[source]▶
Yes I do. I recently joined a Discord to observe some of this (long story, didn't know what I was getting into) and that was a tenet of what was discussed. If you want specifics you'll have to email me because I'm not comfortable putting more details here.