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mbesto ◴[] No.45327428[source]
This is a very poorly researched article. A few things worth considering:

- 20,000 mAh is the rated capacity. Anyone who has tested 18650 batteries (which are the cells typically used in these battery packs) knows the rated capacity != tested capacity.

- Watthours is more important than amp hours

- Tested watt hours as typical loads is more important than amp hours

- It's very normal to see tested capacity to be roughly 70~80% of rated capacity.

- This commenter said they got "At 18W average, I pulled out 55.4Wh" on the Haribo [0]

- The generally considered "gold standard" for ultra light batteries in this range is the Nitecore NB20000 Gen 3, which regularly tests around 56 Wh.

So yes the conclusion is correct - you get roughly the same amount of capacity for a typical load (18W phone) for a cheaper price and slightly less weight. Very curious what battery cells the Haribo uses.

[0] - https://old.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1li5rxw/20000ma...

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1. masklinn ◴[] No.45329297[source]
> Watthours is more important than amp hours

Although that is completely true, pretty much all discussion, speccing, and marketing of batteries and power banks is done in Ah. So the article working in that unit is logical and consistent.

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2. beAbU ◴[] No.45329866[source]
The bit that annoys me always (and what makes Ah a meaningless measurement for power banks) is whether the amp-hours rating is just the internal batteries' spec summed together, or is it as measured at the 5V outlet? Huge difference!
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3. masklinn ◴[] No.45330564[source]
I would assume it’s whichever gives the highest number which is usually going to be the internal voltage.

For instance I have a 20000mAh power bank which also has a 74Wh capacity printed on, a conversion factor of 3.7V matching li-ion chemistry.

Not to mention with PD neither the neither input not output voltages are limited to 5V.