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tgv ◴[] No.45321565[source]
In contrast to many comments, I had a great time studying. Sure, the staff didn't have great teaching skills (classical prof with an unruly hairdo reading from the syllabus in a large hall), but after the first year, classes became smaller and teaching was --while not passionate-- certainly inspired in many cases. It was a period in which students could still pick an academic topic and write a (small) thesis for graduation, or do some internship and write a report about that. I had a supervisor who was into some of the newer stuff and gave me practically free reign with regular feedback.

That was in 80s. I stuck around, changed faculty (AI, cogsci, neuro), and saw university change. It became very financially oriented. The number of students kept rising, norms kept dropping (2nd year student asking: what does this symbol √ mean?), students participating in real research became rarer and rarer, even PhDs shifted towards more and more teaching, and 20 years later, the most influential member of a university's board was the one doing real estate, and an academic career was based on the amount of funding obtained.

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matheusmoreira ◴[] No.45322020[source]
> It became very financially oriented.

> The number of students kept rising, norms kept dropping

All due to the student loans scam.

https://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-first-myth...

https://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-second-myt...

https://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2013/03/myth-3-college...

https://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-last-myth....

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1. renewiltord ◴[] No.45322091[source]
Yes, these organizations adapt to taking government money. The ideal flow for universities:

1. Set tuition high

2. Advocate for student loan systems

3. Advocate for loan forgiveness

In this way, universities can simply allocate government money to themselves. That's why "everyone must be educated" campaigns always argue for government loan forgiveness and full tuition coverage.

Students are a device to acquire money from the government. No more.