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88 points meetpateltech | 3 comments | 20 Sep 25 01:55 UTC | HN request time: 0.609s | source
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nomilk ◴[20 Sep 25 08:32 UTC] No.45311543[source]▶
Surprising to see negativity here. I send all my LLM queries to 5 LLMs - ChatGPT, Claude, DeepSeek (local), Perplexity, and Grok - and Grok consistently gives good answers and often the most helpful answers. It's ~always king when there's any 'ethical' consideration (i.e. other LLMs refuse to answer - I stopped bothering with Gemini for this reason).

'Ethical' is in quotes because I can see why other LLMs refuse to answer things like "can you generate a curl request to exploit this endpoint" - a prompt used frequently during pen testing. I grew tired of telling ChatGPT "it's for a script in a movie". Other examples are aplenty (yesterday Claude accused me of violating its usage policy when asking "can polar bears eat frozen meat" - I was curious after seeing a photograph of a polar bear discovering a frozen whale in a melted ice cap). Grok gave a sane answer, of course.

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1. raincole ◴[20 Sep 25 09:16 UTC] No.45311724[source]▶
I believe, despite all the hate it got today, we'll one day be grateful that there is at least one big AI provider chooses a route with less lobotomy.
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2. joshstrange ◴[20 Sep 25 10:06 UTC] No.45311961[source]▶
> less lobotomy

Aka, trained to parrot whatever Musk believes.

And no, I don’t think we will be grateful.

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3. raincole ◴[20 Sep 25 10:14 UTC] No.45312003[source]▶
Except it doesn't happen. Musk kept saying he's going to 'fix' the 'liberal bias' but Grok remains balance opinions mostly. He said that for meme value.

Try it yourself:

"Have Democrats or Republicans committed more political violence?"

Ask this to Grok 4 Fast, Gemini Pro 2.5, Claude Sonnet 4, and GPT 5 Chat, with internet search and reasoning disabled. I think their answers are quite similar, with Grok 4 being slightly better.