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fbn79 ◴[20 Sep 25 06:44 UTC] No.45311033[source]▶
I never used Erlang, and I'm a functional programming fan. But languages based on heavy VM that abstract OS away always make me doubt that's the right direction.
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andrewflnr ◴[20 Sep 25 07:03 UTC] No.45311130[source]▶
That's not a crazy instinct, and maybe if OSs were better you would even be right, but there's not really another way to get a skrillion communicating processes that can all crash/fail independently. Without a dedicated VM, all the other approaches are either less safe or too inefficient.

I consider BEAM an indication of a direction that OSs could and maybe should move. It's even possible to run BEAM on bare metal, (almost?) entirely in place of the normal OS.

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1. linkdd ◴[20 Sep 25 07:27 UTC] No.45311258[source]▶
> It's even possible to run BEAM on bare metal, (almost?) entirely in place of the normal OS.

How? With a unikernel?

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2. signa11 ◴[20 Sep 25 07:32 UTC] No.45311282[source]▶
i would think so, no other option afaik.
3. thomasfortes ◴[20 Sep 25 07:36 UTC] No.45311299[source]▶
Using GRiSP Metal, not exactly without an OS, but using a real time OS designed for embedded devices.

https://www.grisp.org/software