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badlibrarian ◴[] No.45301736[source]
A search for "Internet Archive rumors" returns a copy of Fleetwood Mac "Rumours" on my first page of results. Playable in browser and downloadable in high-quality lossless format.

The book lawsuit was over current titles (not really archival and preservation), and the record lawsuit wasn't really about the rare 78s, it was about the modern Jimi Hendrix and Paul McCartney records that somehow slipped in. And their refusal to follow the modern law that they themselves celebrated that made what they're trying to do (including downloads) explicitly legal. But that law prohibited fundraising, and they couldn't resist tweeting out links to Frank Sinatra records with a big banner on top asking for money.

In both lawsuits the discovery revealed tech debt and sloppy process at the Archive that made it impossible for them to argue on behalf of the future we all want.

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CYR1X ◴[] No.45306608[source]
Link to the tech debt aspect? I knew that was the case but want to know specifics.

Also the book lawsuit wasn't over old or new titles, it was loaning them 1:N instead of 1:1 because "pandemic". I didn't think it was a great idea at the time and everything in that lawsuit has pointed towards it just being an outright foolhardy effort. There were on a great path towards expanding digital lending boundaries (by letting any library add their books to the IA's lending circulation) and screwed it all up.

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boomboomsubban ◴[] No.45306926[source]
>it was loaning them 1:N instead of 1:1 because "pandemic

It was over loaning them 1:1, the pandemic actions were barely mentioned as part of the lawsuit and the result is that 1:1 loaning was ruled illegal. The only harm the pandemic actions did was to public opinion.

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ocdtrekkie ◴[] No.45308463[source]
Or, the 1:1 lending was probably okay until Kahle showed his willingness to abandon copyright entirely with the emergency library, and publishers decided it was worth putting down CDL as a whole.
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1. boomboomsubban ◴[] No.45311049{3}[source]
The book publishers had been building a case against the CDL for a decade. They saw an opportunity to control the narrative and took it.