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bhouston ◴[] No.45308820[source]
This is actually smart. Many H1B visas are used to undermine fair labor wages for already local talent. We should ensure that H1B visas are for actual unique talent and not just to undercut local wages.

H1B is ripe with abuse - this article by Bloomberg says that half of all H1-B visas are used by Indian staffing firms that pay significantly lower than the US laborers they are replacing:

- https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-h1b-visa-middlemen-c...

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djohnston ◴[] No.45308851[source]
The only way to do that (and preserve H1B) is to entirely disconnect the subcontinent from the application process. Their top companies exist only to scam immigration programs around the world, it is their raison d'être.
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liquid_thyme ◴[] No.45309234[source]
Thats complete bullshit. Nobody can "steal" a job. Americans are lining up to give them jobs.
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1. djohnston ◴[] No.45309345[source]
Why are you using quotes around steal as though I used that word somewhere? Read what I wrote, repeat it to yourself when you fall asleep, come back tomorrow.
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2. liquid_thyme ◴[] No.45309392[source]
Okay, you said scam, not steal. You didn't write much of anything except throw wild accusations.
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3. djohnston ◴[] No.45309453[source]
Yes, scam. Scam. India. Scam. India. You’ve never heard of these two together? Google is your friend. Diploma mills, good old fashioned racial discrimination, hiding job listings in obscure outlets to avoid domestic applicants, man they are truly talented in this endeavour. Maybe if they put so much muscle into improving the home country everyone would be better off.
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4. liquid_thyme ◴[] No.45309519{3}[source]
So your employer's interview process isn't able to differentiate between a fake degree holding scammer and you? I'd focus on that first...
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5. djohnston ◴[] No.45309591{4}[source]
That’s a cute ad-hominem but ultimately off base because that’s not how the diploma mills scam works. I really encourage you to research those topics a bit - it is genuinely fascinating how complex the scams get. There’s also a bit of self-reflection that arises when you learn that these people don’t understand why scamming and cheating is wrong - they’re genuinely incapable of comprehending this. It makes you appreciate people who aren’t like that, including yourself! (hopefully)
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6. djohnston ◴[] No.45309636{4}[source]
Also to your original question here, I am involved with hiring :). I can differentiate with very little effort.
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7. liquid_thyme ◴[] No.45309768{5}[source]
Great, so if they're as obviously bad as you claim, then it should be easy to weed them out for any competent HR department. And if the HR department isn't competent, the company is going to fold. Either way, problem solved.

You felt it appropriate to jump on your little throne and pass judgement on large groups of people, but cried ad-hominem when I slightly criticized you. Sensitive much?

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8. stackedinserter ◴[] No.45309824{5}[source]
> these people don’t understand why scamming and cheating is wrong

Moreover, they openly brag about it. My wife's brings stories from her hair stylist that's very chatty about the ways they literally move their family from India to US and Canada. People fake marriages, divorces, report abuse etc etc. I'm still not sure if it's all true, but the very fact she brags about it is astounding.

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9. djohnston ◴[] No.45309888{6}[source]
How is the problem solved? You have an entire industry dedicated to scamming immigration systems around the world and your solution is to simply avoid getting scammed? It’s a lot easier to cut them off as per the article. The problem IS the scammers.
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10. liquid_thyme ◴[] No.45310346{7}[source]
I don't fix security bugs by requesting people to not exploit them.
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