Seems relevant: https://ruby.social/@getajobmike/115231677684734669
I'm just reposting it though. I haven't followed any of this myself.
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I'm just reposting it though. I haven't followed any of this myself.
Can someone expand on what this means? Is it a continued relationship between Ruby Central and DHH, or the maintainers and DHH? Why does the other party have a problem with that?
EDIT: It seems the post was clarified since I copy/pasted this, and it's RC and DHH. Why do the maintainers have a problem with this? I though the stated reason was about RC removing everyone's access with no warning.
> Why do the maintainers have a problem with this? I thought the stated reason was about RC removing everyone's access with no warning.
I seem to remember some of DHH's controversy due to banning politics at basecamp or something. Is it related to that?
I wouldn't be surprised. The presence of this quote in the linked document:
> A person’s character is determined not only by their actions, but also the actions they stay silent while witnessing.
Suggests that the person who wrote it is deeply obsessed with political activism.
Claiming otherwise is just a roundabout way of saying "you must actively support my agenda at all times, otherwise I will consider you my enemy, even if you take a neutral stance" that political activists love to use to pressure normal people into supporting them.
I think this is what we are discussing. Please share your viewpoint on this.
Under which of these categories would you classify the following assertion:
> As much as I've learned about subject X, I still feel that neither I — nor most people who are already acting, for that matter — truly have enough information to take an informed stance here, as the waters are being actively clouded by propaganda campaigns, censorship, and false-flag operations by one or both sides; and I believe that acting without true knowledge can only play into someone's hand in a way that may damage what turns out to be an innocent party I would highly regret damaging, when this all shakes out a decade down the line. I find myself too knowingly ignorant to conscientiously act... yet I also do not highly prioritize gaining any more information about the situation, as I have seemingly passed the threshold where acquiring additional verifiable and objective information on the conflict is cheap enough to be worth it; gaining any further knowledge to inform my stance is too costly for someone like me, who is neither an investigative journalist, nor a historiographer, nor enmeshed in the conflict myself. So I fear I must opt out of the conflict altogether.
I find myself increasingly arriving at exactly this stance on so many subjects that other people seem to readily take stances (and allow themselves to be spurred to action) on.
I suppose I may differ from the average person in at least one way — that being that, if I were tricked into harming innocent parties, I would hold myself to account for allowing myself to be tricked, rather than externalizing blame to the party responsible for tricking me. After all, only by my learning a lesson in avoiding being manipulated, do I actually lessen the likelihood of the next innocent party coming to harm. Which is a lot more important to me, in a rule-utilitarian sense, than is avoiding social approbation for not taking a stance.
You acknowledge your ignorance and then refuse to remedy that.
This is an act. Perfectly acceptable and understandable. But what is more important it's deliberate and you accept responsibility for any and all consequences.
> I suppose I may differ from the average person in at least one way — that being that, if I were tricked into harming innocent parties, I would hold myself to account for allowing myself to be tricked, rather than externalizing blame to the party responsible for tricking me.
Very commendable. I wish more people held themselves to this standard. It is one of the foundations of learning after all.
They did not say this. They said they would not highly prioritize it. Which is, of course, reasonable: given two topics, I have little metric to prioritize learning about one over the other. I have no way to know that I am prioritizing my research adequately.
If someone doesn't know enough about an issue to care and also doesn't know the things that would motivate them to find out more about the issue that would make them care, that is true ignorance.
If someone doesn't know about an issue and deliberately avoids exposing themselves to things that would care, then it's a deliberate choice.