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tokai ◴[] No.45301814[source]
There is so much pirated material on Internet Archive. They have so many movies with titles directly from the warez groups. I don't think they are done getting in trouble sadly.
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Palomides ◴[] No.45301963[source]
it's frustrating that so many people use the internet archive as pirate file hosting for things that are easy to find elsewhere (legally or otherwise)

it jeopardizes all of their other missions and access to otherwise inaccessible media

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999900000999 ◴[] No.45302043[source]
It really needs to be at least 2 different organizations.

Preserve the internet, store old websites.

Everything else. The whole "Emergency Lending Library" situation was just strange. A random non government organization can just declare copyright unfair and distribute whatever they want ?

And they acted surprised when the book industry reacted ?

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NemoNobody ◴[] No.45303055[source]
I thought that made them heroes - tbh, I think they thought we would save them from this - ppl don't remember goodwill like that long enough tho - haha, your trying pass it off as shade.

Amazon, the largest profiter of digital book media - they definitely got theirs during the pandemic, you don't actually need to have their back - they profited so much, during and off of, out hard times, to then do this, haha - I'll always back the IA.

I could watch the IA upload the entire series of the expanse to their front page and had no issue at all with that.

Tbh - I think the big corpos should HAVE TO subsidize the IAs existence - with no strings, so they should pay the IA to give away their shit - that is my official position.

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1. 999900000999 ◴[] No.45303241[source]
OK.

You don't believe in copyright.

It still would of made more sense to create a separate legal entity ( maybe based out of someplace with different copyright laws), if that's what they wanted to do.

Imagine you have a lemonade stand, all is well. The local health inspector is cool with it even though you don't have a permit.

Your cousin asks you if he can start selling raw milk. If you say ok fine, and sell it at the same stand the local health inspector is well within reason to shut you down.

Why couldn't your cousin start up his own stand ?

As is, I think having all of this concentrated in one entity like IA is a really bad idea. It should be distributed across a dozens of organizations, and dozens of countries.

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2. NemoNobody ◴[] No.45303536[source]
I actually believe in copyright. Of you write a book and use Amazon to host - THEY own that book now, they will make all decisions about it's distributions and how much you will get for your cut (Only 30% is what Amazon pays put for digital book creators) - if I don't like that, they will bully me, or you, or the entire industry of authors - Amazon will always win, BC of those copyright laws actually.

So... yeah, copyright is largely bullshit - look at LLMs - Facebook downloaded ALL OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE EVER MADE - to build maybe the mot profitable thing ever.. yeah, totes fine for them and that industry to do all that "theft"

Haha - is that not a joke?

I'm assuming your a Zoomer and I'm sorry they got to all of you so much, but no need to feel any guilt from piracy, that isn't actual theft, theft takes away from - this does not do that, it just makes a copy.

Marketing made these morals of yours Bud - you wouldn't have them otherwise

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3. wizzwizz4 ◴[] No.45303722[source]
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