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Imnimo ◴[] No.45293673[source]
I looked at the example for computer science basics for a 7th grader interested in food. Explanations include:

"a list can be used for a recipe"

"a set can be used to list all the unique ingredients you need to buy for a week's meals"

"a map can be used for a cookbook"

"a priority queue can be used to manage orders in a busy restaurant kitchen"

"a food-pairing graph can show which ingredients taste good together"

Maybe I'm over-estimating the taste of 7th graders, but I feel like I would get sick of this really quickly.

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apwell23 ◴[] No.45293709[source]
yea this is stupid . agreed.

I don't know when these dorks will understand that education isn't a technical problem. Its a social and emotional problem.

existing material is clear enough to learn from.

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Mtinie ◴[] No.45294028[source]
It’s both. Technology is a component (I’d we wouldn’t have books, recorded videos, multimedia aids, etc.).
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mattlutze ◴[] No.45294251[source]
Technology is a tool to expand the possible ways to educate, but isn't necessary for education to happen.

i.e. we've been educating people for 1,000s of years even without textbooks.

Education itself isn't primarily a technology problem. Treating it as such is an administrative failure, as is pursuing a technological solution in many scenarios that are first social in nature.

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squigz ◴[] No.45295077[source]
> i.e. we've been educating people for 1,000s of years even without textbooks.

By using the tools available at the time we did, certainly. That involves physical tools like writing, but also non-physical tools like better ways of conveying and disseminating information, better ways of testing the efficacy of various approaches, etc, etc.

Education has to evolve, as it always has. While I'm not sure TFA is it, I do think LLMs will have a role to play in making learning more accessible and enjoyable for everyone, not just kids.

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1. mattlutze ◴[] No.45302464[source]
> By using the tools available at the time we did, certainly.

Yes, tools which help. But the point is that education occurs with any collection of tools, or even the simplest of all, if we want to go so broad as to call speech technology.

Technology is an augmenter of education, but not the fundamental problem of education.

> I do think

I'm not sure whether they should have a role, or what that roll should be, as such a feeling would be moralizing to some degree. But I agree that we will _make_ LLMs have a role, because the capitalism that drives our societies wants them to have a role.