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1806 points JustSkyfall | 5 comments | | HN request time: 0.708s | source
1. tossandthrow ◴[] No.45286749[source]
Slack has been a down hill project for the past 5 years and has become incredibly bad.

Unfortunately,this should be the sentiment with all SaaS projects.

When a platform, like in this case, is inherent to the value proposition and can not easily be exchanged (building programs around it), one should consider self hosting.

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2. dominicrose ◴[] No.45286960[source]
We've been using Mattermost for so long I don't know what happened to Slack but the fact that they can't keep their customers is not really an issue as long as we have similar software available for a more just cost or self-hostable.

This type of app isn't supposed to hold data. At least in my opinion, Slack is more for instant messaging and e-mail for tracing.

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3. YetAnotherNick ◴[] No.45287640[source]
This is licensing problem, not hosting problem. VMware and Oracle didn't got it reputation out of thin air.
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4. redserk ◴[] No.45288342[source]
If you’re going to spend the effort to rewrite your chat conversations back into email, you might as well throw those summaries into a wiki or other documentation system..
5. tossandthrow ◴[] No.45288463[source]
You are right, but when self hosting you do have a bit more leverage - such as not being rug-pulled by the SaaS provider before having gone through arbitration.

Organizations need to realize that being right does not matter if you are dead.