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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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1806 points JustSkyfall | 3 comments | 18 Sep 25 01:37 UTC | HN request time: 0.49s | source
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p0w3n3d ◴[18 Sep 25 05:20 UTC] No.45285730[source]▶
We're using teams in my new company, which is awful for textual communication (lacks threads in chats, groups are more like old forums than new IM). I've been experimenting with self-hosted Mattermost but it seems that it also requires paid license in some situations (e.g. does not have groups for some reason in the free version).

I was unable to find another system. Would anyone recommend me something?

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1. willvarfar ◴[18 Sep 25 05:49 UTC] No.45285925[source]▶
I get the sense that Mattermost is the same kind of eventually-get-you-paying play as Slack.

Other threads are mentioning Zulip, which feels more old-school free as well as Free open source.

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2. mcv ◴[18 Sep 25 08:59 UTC] No.45287305[source]▶
We should stop letting ourselves get suckered into these proprietary systems. Same with Discord. It may look great now, but there's still a company behind it looking to extract as much profit from it as possible, and eventually it will get enshittified. We know this. We've seen it happen dozens of times. We really should stop falling for it.

Open standards, easy migration, and servers you pay an honest cost for. Self-hosting, perhaps even. That's where we need to go.

3. jeremy46231 ◴[18 Sep 25 09:31 UTC] No.45287540[source]▶
We're self-hosting Mattermost, it's open core!