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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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1502 points JustSkyfall | 2 comments | 18 Sep 25 01:37 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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matthewaveryusa ◴[18 Sep 25 05:30 UTC] No.45285801[source]▶
For those of you recommending matrix, have you tried in earnest to use it? I couldn't get reliable video and call to work, even with stun/turn servers properly configured (chrome doesn't trust let's encrypt for ICE certs, that was a fun one to debug, had to go with zerossl).

Sometimes the phone wouldn't ring, rarely did video work.

The element app for android doesn't notify correctly unless the app is open.

For day to day desktop chat it's great, but it falls apart on videoconferencing and mobile

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1. darkamaul ◴[18 Sep 25 05:38 UTC] No.45285852[source]▶
I can’t really comment on video calls in Matrix since I never used them in Slack either. For me the main draw is having one tool that does one job well, rather than trying to be the all-in-one hub for everything. I’d rather have messaging in one place, email wherever it lives, and video calls on a separate tool that’s actually good at that, instead of relying on a centralized system that tries to cover all bases but ends up being mediocre at most of them.
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2. jandrewrogers ◴[18 Sep 25 06:24 UTC] No.45286185[source]▶
It has been a year or two since I used Slack heavily, but when I did the video calls were unreliable and poor. Maybe it has improved since then.