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rf15 ◴[] No.45271916[source]
It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and power at home. I imagine the political calculus of if and how to support it is ridiculously difficult.
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Cornbilly ◴[] No.45276233[source]
The current US administration also derives a lot of its support from evangelical Christians, who have a belief that Israel must exist in order for Jesus to return to earth. Which I’m sure he’d be a fan of all the lying and killing that was done to make that happen…
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bko ◴[] No.45278635[source]
I don't think you have to be an evangelical Christian to belief that Israel should exist. I think a lot of people not heavily invested in politics or world affairs simply see Israel as more of a Western country aligned with their values and beliefs and want them to exist.

> Which I’m sure he’d be a fan of all the lying and killing that was done to make that happen…

I'm not sure if Israel ceased to exist there would be less killing and lying. In the first order effect maybe. But if you let a terrorist state control an area, that's obviously not good for global stability. But then again it might be self contained, kind of like a backwards place that exists in its own bubble.

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1. amdivia ◴[] No.45285757[source]
Why would the terrorists exist to begin with if Israel didn't exist?
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2. throwaway290 ◴[] No.45287744[source]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

same you can ask why Islam conquests would even exist to begin with if everybody was already Muslim. Just that one thing ruins everything eh?

same about Christian crusades etc.

Religions want to expand. Some more than others.