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    rowanG077 ◴[] No.45284045[source]
    I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.
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    1. Waterluvian ◴[] No.45284127[source]
    I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale.

    I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”

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    2. DangitBobby ◴[] No.45284180[source]
    It's pretty much just rent extraction, or even feudalism, which you could argue is the end result of unchecked capitalism.
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    3. desultir ◴[] No.45284187[source]
    I feel like any time a company goes public they lose the ability to pass up on revenue. The C-suite report to the board, who have a fiduciary duty to maximize profits.

    Same with private VC/PE held companies. The board will replace the C-Suite if they aren't maximizing value.

    You'd need to find a company which is huge but privately held by a group of people with only good intentions.

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    4. krackers ◴[] No.45284205[source]
    https://kr-asia.com/at-usd-90-per-unit-seauto-is-quietly-swe...

    >By 2019, Deng had turned his attention to consumer goods. Pool robots, though low-profile, offered untapped potential, especially in markets like the US, where high labor costs made automation more appealing.

    >“For what these machines can do today, they should cost USD 300–400,” he said. “That’s already the cap. Anything higher is just an ‘IQ tax,’ unless the cleaning function actually gets significantly better.”

    5. smithcoin ◴[] No.45284224[source]
    37signals?
    6. pcl ◴[] No.45284273[source]
    That seems like a pretty tough argument to make, to be honest.
    7. buzzerbetrayed ◴[] No.45284278[source]
    What is preventing you from competing with Slack and doing “good things at scale”?

    The problem is that you want other people to fund your goodness.

    8. triceratops ◴[] No.45284411[source]
    > who have a fiduciary duty to maximize profits

    * Fiduciary duty to act in shareholders' interests. This is not the same thing as "maximize profits".

    Maximizing profits makes the stock price go up. That benefits the C-suite. Because they're paid in stock.

    The board designs their compensation package that way because they figure "number go up" is the easiest way to show they're acting in shareholders' interests.

    9. gary_0 ◴[] No.45284456[source]
    Not even "do good"; even just honest business where you exchange a good or service with a customer for a fair market price.

    Technology allowed companies to expand and centralize on a national scale, and capital pushed that to the conclusion we're at now, where there are a few gigantic players (at most) and almost all recourse against bad faith has been precluded. Nowadays if a customer is taken advantage of, they can't drive 5 extra minutes in the opposite direction and take their business elsewhere, or shame the owner in the local paper. Only impenetrable monoliths remain.

    10. mr_tristan ◴[] No.45284790[source]
    There are a lot of mid-sized companies identified in the book _Hidden Champions of the 21st Century_. I just started the book, but it's exactly the ethos you're talking about here: these companies just focus on a niche, tend to sell to other businesses, and just stay doing this thing profitably, absolutely dominating their niche with razor focus.

    I'm reading this book because, well, that's the kind of place I'd like to work. I think it makes sense to get a feel for how these places think, in order to really identify job opportunities

    Edit: here's a Wikipedia page on the topic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_champions

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    11. Agraillo ◴[] No.45288450[source]
    Thanks for sharing. Two companies come to mind: Strix for kettle controllers and Shimano for bike gears. Maybe they don't fit exactly to the Hidden champions category because they’re not very hidden from the public (many manufacturers mention their names on final products, assuming consumers might take that into account). So the criteria for “hidden champions” could be more flexible imo

    Strix became less hidden for me personally after listening to The Life Scientific interview with John Taylor [1]. There is plenty of fascinating information, probably because Jim Al-Khalili is a great scientific interviewer. Recently, I recalled it in the context of AI, self-driving, and safety. Strix controllers have a second level of protection if the main automatic shut-off circuit fails. That’s probably why we never hear of fires or other incidents due to a failed Strix controller.

    [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b42z87