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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266704[source]
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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beloch ◴[] No.45267542[source]
Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly.

Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Netanyahu has, to date, handled Trump deftly and Rubio's current presence in Israel seems to be aimed at offering support to the ground offensive, not opposition. I honestly have no idea what kind of backlash it would take to shake U.S. support for this genocide.

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dlubarov ◴[] No.45268075[source]
Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45270471[source]
The US and all other nations sanction Israel. If that doesn't work, military intervention. Israel will fall, it's just a matter of time.
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dlubarov ◴[] No.45271241[source]
What would you demand Israel do to be released from these hypothetical sanctions?

Military intervention meaning invade a nuclear power?

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lupusreal ◴[] No.45274033[source]
Unconditional surrender of all Israeli politicians and government workers, to stand trial for crimes against humanity.
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dotancohen[dead post] ◴[] No.45275260[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45275566[source]
It's Palestinian land and most of the world is aware of that. Israel is not a legitimate state.
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SilverElfin[dead post] ◴[] No.45278587[source]
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_DeadFred_[dead post] ◴[] No.45280554[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45280638[source]
It doesn’t matter how many people live there. Nazi Germany had more than 10 million. That didn’t justify their crimes.
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_DeadFred_[dead post] ◴[] No.45281720[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45281766[source]
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1. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45282996[source]
Zionists are committing genocide but you think the anti-Zionists are horrible and evil. Ok.
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2. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45285605[source]
There’s nothing shameful about being anti-genocide and Zionist terror.
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3. _DeadFred_ ◴[] No.45286086{3}[source]
Disregarding/waiving away what happens to 10 million people because 'they or their grandparents are/were evil' IS far down the path to its own evil.

Some of the worst atrocities have been committed by people who knew they were in the right, or people that were passing judgement on others on a mass scale. That you have zero reflection on it and just jump to 'zionism' is scary af, not gonna lie. I've lost a shit ton of karma hoping you would get any kind of self awareness. But you are all in on 'fuck 10 million people'. But like I said, at least you are honest that you are fine with whatever happens to millions of people, as long as they are people you judge unworthy of caring. Most pro-palestinians don't have the nerve to clearly state their intentions and are just downvoting me.

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4. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45292036{4}[source]
My position is mainstream. Israel must be dissolved. Most people on this planet have no problem stating that. It’s not remotely controversial.