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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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1332 points Qem | 2 comments | 16 Sep 25 08:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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yieldcrv ◴[16 Sep 25 09:31 UTC] No.45260020[source]▶
Useless except if the following done on the US side:

Remove exception to AIPAC political status

Reevaluate AIPAC non profit status entirely

Replicate EO 14046 for Israel which adds the entire ruling party and head of state and spouses and military and affiliated business to the OFAC list

all of this is easy and doesn’t require Congress

but nobody is close to considering those actions with regard to Israel. Notably, other nation’s organizations do not enjoy this courtesy

(Don’t sorry guys, Hamas is already on these lists too)

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therobots927 ◴[16 Sep 25 19:26 UTC] No.45266764[source]▶
Voters can take a stand and refuse to vote for anyone complicit in this atrocity.
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imglorp ◴[16 Sep 25 20:09 UTC] No.45267315[source]▶
In the US, both parties were supportive in the last election. Not many choices.
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actionfromafar ◴[16 Sep 25 20:18 UTC] No.45267423[source]▶
One party had a long leash. The other cut the leash and yelled attaboy.

Now acting mildly concerned when the neighbour downstreet (Qatar) got their chickens bombed.

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IncreasePosts ◴[16 Sep 25 21:38 UTC] No.45268462[source]▶
Why shouldn't Hamas leadership be bombed wherever they may be? They're the leaders of a terrorist organization. The US takes out terrorists wherever they may be (or, works with local authorities to get them first). But, when local authorities are siding with the terrorists, we go in there and do it ourselves. October 7th was Israel's 9/11 - we went and got bin Laden in Pakistan, without dealing with the Pakistani government. Why shouldn't Israel do the same thing? I say - kill all the Hamas leadership, and leave the random Palestinian citizens alone.
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mnw21cam ◴[17 Sep 25 08:34 UTC] No.45273318[source]▶
Let's imagine that a political opposition leader from Russia were to take refuge in the US. Now imagine that Russia performed a "surgical strike" bombing in the US to kill what they viewed as a terrorist leader. Can you imagine the outrage that would occur? That's exactly the situation that Qatar has just experienced.

It's an act of war. One country bombing another country means they are at war.

Now, the power dynamics in this region mean that they'll probably get away with it, and Qatar is more likely to let it slip than not, but it's still morally reprehensible.

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1. velcrohn ◴[17 Sep 25 22:30 UTC] No.45282207[source]▶
But in your example, the unstated premise is that the opposition leader is not in fact a terrorist, so his killing is wrong.

In the case of Hamas, they are in fact terrorists. So the analogy fails.

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2. mnw21cam ◴[18 Sep 25 09:40 UTC] No.45287601[source]▶
No, that's not the point. Whether someone is a terrorist is subjective. Russia could (and likely would) define their opposition leader as a terrorist.

My point is that if Russia were to conduct a bombing on US soil, regardless of who it was targeting, the response would be severe and the reasonable onlookers would not blame the US for being "upset" about it. Yet that is exactly what Israel has done to Qatar.