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leoh ◴[] No.45280634[source]
The trouble is, what is the right medium or long term solution. If Israel militarily fails as a state, which seems to me to be an implicit aim of a significant number of anti-Israel folks, the results will make the current Gaza conflict look like a joke.
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1. MagicMoonlight ◴[] No.45281760[source]
“If you fight back after we rape and murder your women and children in an unprovoked attack, then you are an evil rabid dog”

Hmmmm

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2. vFunct ◴[] No.45282029[source]
The best part is the anti-Hamas crowd will always claim Hamas raped women on October 7, but will conveniently leave out basic details, like the names of any alleged rape victims that were confirmed to have been raped.
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3. NomDePlum ◴[] No.45282167[source]
Unprovoked? Israel has raped and killed many people before, on, and since that day.

Eye for an eye, and the whole world will be blind. That's the path Israel is following.

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4. leoh ◴[] No.45282931[source]
War has never been well regulated nor fair and just. There was relative peace before October 7.
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5. peanuty1 ◴[] No.45283248{3}[source]
There is nothing anti-semitic about what the parent poster said. Any criticism of Israelis is anti-semitic according to Israel.
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6. leoh ◴[] No.45284358{4}[source]
So a few Arabs from Gaza kind of just hung out and went home. And Israel retaliated. Got it.
7. otterley ◴[] No.45284679{4}[source]
It’s not the criticism itself that is anti-Semitic. There’s plenty of criticism of Israeli actions and politics that don’t come across that way.

But you can tell who’s anti-Semitic by they way are attracted like moths to a light bulb to any story that has some connection (regardless of how distant that connection is) to Jews or Israel to get on a soapbox about how bad Israel is. And when confronted with accusations of their anti-Semitism, they rarely deny it. Instead, like you, they try to turn it around on the accuser.

It’s similar to the way you can tell who’s simply angry at his wife over a recent spat, and who’s a misogynist.

8. vFunct ◴[] No.45285033{3}[source]
OK but that's just name-calling, instead of an argument. An argument is that Hamas has a right to kill their foreign invaders, including the enemy combatants who happen to be dancing at a music festival, for example.

And you're name-calling because you're trying to normalize the existence of an occupation force in foreign lands.

Not everyone agrees that Israel has a right to exist. If you believe European Jews have a right to kill Palestinian children to steal their land to establish their mediterranean resort home they call Israel, then you need to explain that, instead of just name-calling.

Tell us WHY you believe European Jews have a right to kill Palestinian children to steal their land in order to establish the state of Israel.

At this point you might as well assume everyone is antisemitic, but its still your job to get them on your side.

9. buyucu ◴[] No.45286754[source]
History didn't start in 2023. Israel has been murdering Palestinians for decades. Israeli settlers are basically terrorists.
10. buyucu ◴[] No.45286764{3}[source]
This is a lie. Israeli settlers have been attacking Palestinians for years. Israeli settlers are terrorists.