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223 points mindingnever | 12 comments | | HN request time: 0.203s | source | bottom
1. chatmasta ◴[] No.45280014[source]
Are government agencies sending prompts to model inference APIs on remote servers? Or are they running the models in their own environment?

It’s worrying to me that Anthropic, a foreign corporation (EDIT: they’re a US corp), would even have the visibility necessary to enforce usage restrictions on US government customers. Or are they baking the restrictions into the model weights?

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2. itsgrimetime ◴[] No.45280057[source]
Anthropic is US-based - unless you meant something else by "foreign corporation"?
3. jjice ◴[] No.45280070[source]
> It’s worrying to me that Anthropic, a foreign corporation, would even have the visibility necessary to enforce usage restrictions on US government customers.

"Foreign" to who? I interpretted your comment as foreign to the US government (please correct me if I'm wrong) and I was confused because Anthropic is a US company.

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4. chatmasta ◴[] No.45280079[source]
Ah my mistake. I thought they were French. I got them confused with Mistral.

The concern remains even if it’s a US corporation though (not government owned servers).

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6. bri3d ◴[] No.45280093[source]
1) Anthropic are US based, maybe you're thinking of Mistral?

2) Are government agencies sending prompts to model inference APIs on remote servers?

Of course, look up FedRAMP. Depending on the assurance level necessary, cloud services run on either cloud carve-outs in US datacenters (with various "US Person Only" rules enforced to varying degrees) or for the highest levels, in specific assured environments (AWS Secret Region for example).

3) It’s worrying to me that Anthropic, a foreign corporation, would even have the visibility necessary to enforce usage restrictions on US government customers.

There's no evidence they do, it's just lawyers vs lawyers here as far as I can tell.

7. jjice ◴[] No.45280101{3}[source]
Ah yes - Mistral is the largest of the non-US, non-Chinese AI companies that I'm aware of.

> The concern remains even if it’s a US corporation though (not government owned servers).

Very much so, I completely agree.

8. toxik ◴[] No.45280121{3}[source]
Anthropic is pretty clearly using the Häagen-Dasz approach here, call yourself Anthropic and your product Claude so you seem French. Why?
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9. bt1a ◴[] No.45280130{3}[source]
Everyone spies and abuses individuals' privacy. What difference does it make? (Granted I would agree with you if Anthropic were indeed a foreign based entity, so am I contradicting myself wonderfully?)
10. chatmasta ◴[] No.45280144{4}[source]
Hah, it was indeed the Claude name that had me confused :D
11. mcintyre1994 ◴[] No.45280237{4}[source]
According to Claude, it’s named after Claude Shannon, who was American.
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12. astrange ◴[] No.45281494{5}[source]
But it might also be the albino alligator in the California Academy of Sciences in SF.