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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266704[source]
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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beloch ◴[] No.45267542[source]
Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly.

Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Netanyahu has, to date, handled Trump deftly and Rubio's current presence in Israel seems to be aimed at offering support to the ground offensive, not opposition. I honestly have no idea what kind of backlash it would take to shake U.S. support for this genocide.

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dlubarov ◴[] No.45268075[source]
Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45270471[source]
The US and all other nations sanction Israel. If that doesn't work, military intervention. Israel will fall, it's just a matter of time.
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dlubarov ◴[] No.45271241[source]
What would you demand Israel do to be released from these hypothetical sanctions?

Military intervention meaning invade a nuclear power?

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lupusreal ◴[] No.45274033[source]
Unconditional surrender of all Israeli politicians and government workers, to stand trial for crimes against humanity.
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dotancohen[dead post] ◴[] No.45275260[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45275566[source]
It's Palestinian land and most of the world is aware of that. Israel is not a legitimate state.
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dotancohen ◴[] No.45276854{8}[source]
How was it "Palestinian land"? It's pretty racist to assert that land can only belong to a certain group of people. Is Britain "white land"?
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45276922{9}[source]
It was literally Palestinian land. European Zionists invaded and encouraged Arab Jewish mass immigration. The founding texts of Zionism, the Balfour Declaration and Nakba are all very well documented.
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1. dlubarov ◴[] No.45278354{10}[source]
> European Zionists invaded

Invaded what state? Mandatory Palestine? It sounds like you're just referring to (mostly legal) Jewish immigration. Would you apply the same label to Arab immigrants such as Arafat, or is it only an invasion when Jews immigrate?

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2. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45278425[source]
I’m talking about Nakba.
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3. dotancohen ◴[] No.45289755[source]
The nakba happened after seven Arab armies invaded the Jewish state. Not after Jews invaded any Arab state.
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4. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45291995{3}[source]
Typical Zionist lies:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba