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ipaddr ◴[] No.45267137[source]
Wonder why this made the frontpage when other political articles die.

Has the rules around political non technical articles changed? Can we get an Epstein thread for the frontpage sometime this week?

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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.45268612[source]
For me, this is meaningful because for the first time a legitimate international body is calling this a genocide.

Previously, it’s been activists and claims that this might be genocide. I haven’t read the report yet. But I will, and I intend to leave my mind open as to whether this raises the profile of this war in my mind relative to domestic issues.

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dmbche ◴[] No.45268691[source]
Francesca Albanese has held the genocide line since day one as the UN special rapporteur on israel and palestine
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dotancohen ◴[] No.45268855[source]
She's hardly impartial. Her husband worked for the Palestinian Authority.
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lazyasciiart ◴[] No.45269335[source]
Ooh, can we dismiss all statements from someone who is related to someone who worked for the Israeli government or was in the IDF too?

Wait, you know people who were killed by Hamas? You can’t even pretend to be impartial.

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dotancohen[dead post] ◴[] No.45269565[source]
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dmbche ◴[] No.45269751[source]
I'm uninsterested in your credibility or opinion on wether or not it's a genocide.

Courts have ruled it is. The world has ruled it is. You can skirm all you want, in 6 months you'll say you always thought it was a genocide. Mark my words.

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mpweiher ◴[] No.45271936[source]
They have not.
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dmbche ◴[] No.45272146[source]
They have - not in a final ruling, but in mutliple rulings adjacent, provisional measures for example. Feel free to read what the courtd have made public for all to see
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mpweiher ◴[] No.45272640[source]
They have not.

https://x.com/Mr_Andrew_Fox/status/1783621258032136550

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dmbche ◴[] No.45277371[source]
You could also read a ruling
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1. mpweiher ◴[] No.45278082[source]
They haven't ruled yet.

I also read what they published so far.

Bizarrely, it matches what the <checks notes> head of the ICJ said.

Who would have thought?

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2. dmbche ◴[] No.45278584[source]
Haven't they recognised that the rights of Palestinians to be protected from genocide has plausibly been infringed upon? Which is what was said in that excerpt? Edit1: I'm specifically referring to all decisions regarding provisional measures

Edit0:Rulings are not only the final decision, feel free to chat with a lawyer

What more do you need? Indeed, there hasn't been a final ruling yet. What a gotcha!

Edit1: Also, please understand that the distinction you are pointing to is just saying : 1. Palestinians seemingly are being genocided 2. Israel has a responsibility not to ebact acts of genocide on the palestinians 3. Israel keeps failing at this goal and has even has it's leaders express genocidal intent.

Which is to say everything BUT the final ruling - that Israel has committed genocide - as final ruling can't be arrived to expeditedly even in the face of overwhelming evidence

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3. mpweiher ◴[] No.45291155[source]
You really have to both listen and understand.

The plausibility is that the Palestinians have a right to be protected from Genocide.

Which is why the court is hearing the case.

There was no decision on the plausibility of Israel infringing on that right, which is what you incorrectly make out of it.

To quote: "It did not decide that the claim of genocide was plausible".

Which is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

https://x.com/mr_andrew_fox/status/1783621258032136550?s=61