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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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1332 points Qem | 2 comments | 16 Sep 25 08:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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eej71 ◴[16 Sep 25 20:24 UTC] No.45267482[source]▶
It's always useful to balance these claims against their critics.

Towards that end I offer up unwatch.

https://unwatch.org/

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DaveExeter ◴[16 Sep 25 20:38 UTC] No.45267692[source]▶
Isn't that an Israeli "hasbara" site? The Israelis have admitted that they use the false cry of "antisemitism" to attack.

"Calling it antisemitism - it’s a trick we always use." Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli Minister

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1896748975207952758

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breppp ◴[16 Sep 25 21:15 UTC] No.45268164[source]▶
You are aware that Shulamit Alloni was on the extreme left and was criticizing this supposed misuse of Antisemitism, this is not some playbook

The american equivalent would be to quote Bernie Sanders saying "America is fascist" and then saying, see? therefore the USA system of government is fascism, even Congress agrees!

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DaveExeter ◴[17 Sep 25 00:06 UTC] No.45269938[source]▶
Not sure how that's the equivalent.

Lets see if there is a pattern.

Roger Waters criticizes Israel, Roger Waters is an antisemite.

Tucker Carlson criticizes Israel, Tucker Carlson is an antisemite.

Edward Said criticizes Israel, Edward Said is an antisemite.

Even "legends" get called antisemites! [1]

Hannah Einbinder criticizes Israel, Hannah Einbinder is an antisemite? Hmmm.

According to Jerry Seinfeld, anyone who says "free palestine" is antisemitic.

Any website, or any person, that claims "antisemitism" has lost all credibility for me.

[1] https://moguldom.com/454177/silicon-valley-legend-paul-graha...

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breppp ◴[17 Sep 25 04:31 UTC] No.45271686[source]▶
You have simply given a false example.

Regarding antisemitism, it is unfortunately a two millennium old racist phenomenon, which shows itself in an obsession many persons had with Jews and their "influence on world politics". Behaviors include use of ritual scapegoating, where double standards are applied to the jews and then blame is shifted to them, culminating in ritual violence.

It's hard to delete 2000 years of western culture, so what you are seeing is mostly a rehash of this

This predated Israel by much and can be seen online for example by the unhealthy obsession with this conflict or even paranoid delusions considering Israel ("Israel killed Charlie Kirk cause I saw Nethanyahu respond to the murder" as can be seen in this thread)

In the above mentioned UN human right council you can see it in the fact 40% of decisions are about Israel while countries like Iran chair the committee. Or the fact there is a permanent clause (Article 7) meant to condemn Israel permanently, the only such country that had such a clause

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1. gosub100 ◴[17 Sep 25 16:16 UTC] No.45277762[source]▶
I get the formula: commit genocide and then call critics an antisemite.
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2. breppp ◴[17 Sep 25 19:10 UTC] No.45280107[source]▶
No, antisemitism is historically based on shifting blame and scapegoating. That's why the nazis were blaming Jews of genocide ("Germany must perish") while they were working on their destruction.

That's why an organization that used death squads to mass-execute civilians in entire towns (as was done by the Einsatzgruppen) gets to blame the side that bombs military targets (exactly the tactic used against nazis) with genocide

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