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dluan ◴[] No.45271565[source]
Seeing PG slowly turn on this issue, from nothing into recognition and now into advocacy has been wild. Presumably because he has kids, and like many parents you understand with your eyes first, and then your heart.

PG wields some amount of power in SV, but YC and others are still inextricably tied to what's happening. Thiel was just in Israel with elad gil, rabois, alex karp, joe lonsdale. It's just too much to list.

I guess my point is when does recognition turn into action.

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velcrohn[dead post] ◴[] No.45275986[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45276019[source]
Israel has been terrorizing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians since the inception of Zionism. Nakba was the original mass ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

October 7th was a valid reaction to people violently stealing your land and killing your families. The Palestinians had even tried a peaceful March of Return only to have the IDF snipe over a thousand people.

Israel is not a legitimate state, and never has been.

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klipt ◴[] No.45277438[source]
> October 7th was a valid reaction to people violently stealing your land and killing your families.

Well the Arab states collectively stole land 5 times the size of Israel from the Mizrahi Jews they ethnically cleansed (who now make up a majority of Israeli Jews)

So by your logic the Mizrahi Jews are entitled to enact October 7 style killings on the Arab states until they pay reparations for the land they stole.

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1. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45277604[source]
This is false and never happened. Mizrahi Jews colonized Palestine under the banner of Zionism. Despite holding a lower social position in Israel than Ashkenazis, they are still colonizers.
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2. klipt ◴[] No.45278215[source]
You can't deny history, it's well documented that Mizrahi Jews hold the deeds to lands in Arab states adding up multiple times the size of Israel.

If the Arab states think the Palestinians deserve reparations for stolen land, then obviously the Mizrahi Jews deserve multiples of those reparations.

If the Arab states think they can avoid paying reparations for the land they stole just by taking Israel by force, well they tried that several times and failed already.

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3. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45278449[source]
This isn’t an issue for Americans (which I am) we are complicit in the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. We also have a major issue with Zionist control of our government. Those are the issues we need to deal with.
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4. klipt ◴[] No.45285965{3}[source]
Are you 100% native American living on your tribe's ancestral lands? If not by your own logic you are illegitimately occupying stolen land and have no right to live there.
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5. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45291297{4}[source]
If this was 1592, you might have some kind of point. I do support reparations and land back though. I'm also not actively genociding Indigenous Americans.