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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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1332 points Qem | 1 comments | 16 Sep 25 08:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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dluan ◴[17 Sep 25 04:09 UTC] No.45271565[source]▶
Seeing PG slowly turn on this issue, from nothing into recognition and now into advocacy has been wild. Presumably because he has kids, and like many parents you understand with your eyes first, and then your heart.

PG wields some amount of power in SV, but YC and others are still inextricably tied to what's happening. Thiel was just in Israel with elad gil, rabois, alex karp, joe lonsdale. It's just too much to list.

I guess my point is when does recognition turn into action.

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nakamoto_damacy ◴[17 Sep 25 08:05 UTC] No.45273157[source]▶
I used to shame PG for his elitist views. Now I celebrate his moral courage.

One man cannot fix everything.

Dear PG (I'm sure you don't read HN, but this is yet another echo),

As I said on X, your own platform (YCombinator) is still full of hateful bigots who would censor/downvote even the mildest form of speaking against the genocide. Proof: this comment being downvoted. Downvoting as a mechanism is akin to censorship. It's being abused.

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adastra22 ◴[17 Sep 25 08:39 UTC] No.45273365[source]▶
Having a difference of opinion on a very complicated geopolitical situation that is the culmination of a century of regional conflict is not being a "hateful bigot" or abuse.
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nakamoto_damacy ◴[17 Sep 25 08:46 UTC] No.45273407[source]▶
Genocide is not complicated.
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trhway[dead post] ◴[17 Sep 25 09:20 UTC] No.45273587[source]▶
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nakamoto_damacy[dead post] ◴[17 Sep 25 09:38 UTC] No.45273692[source]▶
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adastra22 ◴[17 Sep 25 10:02 UTC] No.45273851{3}[source]▶
Gaza Health Ministry is literally Hamas. When they took power, they replaced the leadership (much like RFK Jr. is doing at the CDC now). In addition to GHM leadership being unqualified Hamas operatives, all numbers and repots are vetted by Hamas proper before release.

Please stop polluting the conversation with ChatGPT slop.

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sillyfluke ◴[17 Sep 25 10:45 UTC] No.45274122{4}[source]▶
The Gaza Health Ministry, whatever that is, is known to be undercounting deaths because it doesn't count corpses that haven't been reached.

Why is a former Israeli general saying that deaths are at least 200,000?[0] And Israel military intelligence saying 80% of death are civilians? Are they also Hamas?

Netanyahu is on record prior to October 7th bragging about how Israel aided Hamas, a designated terror organization by their book, in order to weaken the PLO. You have no legs to stand on.

You're arguing in bad faith or being willfully ignorant because you're not adressing what has been talked about ad nauseum by the other side.

[0] https://portside.org/2025-09-13/ex-idf-chief-confirms-gaza-c...

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trhway ◴[17 Sep 25 11:10 UTC] No.45274293{5}[source]▶
I didn't get it - do you agree or disagree that the Ministry of Health is HAMAS which is a terrorist organization which in particular perpetrated genocide of Jewish people on Oct 7, 2023.

HAMAS perpetrated the genocide of Jewish people, and now its propaganda is used as the basis to declare genocide supposedly perpetrated by the Jewish state while fighting against HAMAS. You don't see anything strange here?

And another strange thing - why UN didn't call out the genocide of Jewish people by HAMAS?

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1. toast0 ◴[17 Sep 25 15:42 UTC] No.45277196{6}[source]▶
Is your argument that if they do a genocide, you get to do a genocide? That's what it sounds like.

I'd love to get data from an unbiased source, but how do you do that in this situation? Ministry of Health can't be trusted, Israeli sources can't be trusted, independent journalists don't have reasonable access and are regularly killed while reporting.

> And another strange thing - why UN didn't call out the genocide of Jewish people by HAMAS?

I would think priority needs to go to activity that is ongoing. This report may help bring an end to the ongoing activity, but the Hamas attacks are not ongoing.

This report was specificially not on that topic, but mentioned that it may qualify as genocide. The ICC did issue an arrest warrant for a Hamas commander and there was widespread condemnation of the attacks. Further specific reporting would likely benefit from cooperation of Israeli sources, but Israel doesn't like to cooperate with the UN.