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dluan ◴[] No.45271565[source]
Seeing PG slowly turn on this issue, from nothing into recognition and now into advocacy has been wild. Presumably because he has kids, and like many parents you understand with your eyes first, and then your heart.

PG wields some amount of power in SV, but YC and others are still inextricably tied to what's happening. Thiel was just in Israel with elad gil, rabois, alex karp, joe lonsdale. It's just too much to list.

I guess my point is when does recognition turn into action.

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nakamoto_damacy ◴[] No.45273157[source]
I used to shame PG for his elitist views. Now I celebrate his moral courage.

One man cannot fix everything.

Dear PG (I'm sure you don't read HN, but this is yet another echo),

As I said on X, your own platform (YCombinator) is still full of hateful bigots who would censor/downvote even the mildest form of speaking against the genocide. Proof: this comment being downvoted. Downvoting as a mechanism is akin to censorship. It's being abused.

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adastra22 ◴[] No.45273365[source]
Having a difference of opinion on a very complicated geopolitical situation that is the culmination of a century of regional conflict is not being a "hateful bigot" or abuse.
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nakamoto_damacy ◴[] No.45273407[source]
Genocide is not complicated.
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adastra22[dead post] ◴[] No.45273595[source]
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piltdownman ◴[] No.45273936[source]
When Daniella Weiss explains that the purpose of the settlements is to "change the reality on the ground", it's probably best to believe her.

//Yet this is what the grocery stores look like, as of two weeks ago

Israel has systematically obstructed food entering Gaza, in the easily-confirmed words of Daniela Weiss again “THE ARABS WILL MOVE, DON'T GIVE THEM FOOD.”

In terms of qualifying a Famine, all three criteria have been met long-since.

Starvation: At least 1 in 5 households face an extreme shortage in their consumption of food

Malnutrition: Roughly 1 in 3 children or more are acutely malnourished

Mortality: At least 2 in every 10,000 people are dying daily because of outright starvation or the combination of malnutrition and disease

"BBC -How Israel's policies created famine in Gaza" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg4p90z1kxo

The figure _compiled and published by Israel_ confirms it. Between March and June, Israel allowed just 56k tonnes of food to enter the territory; less than a quarter of Gaza’s minimum needs for that period.

Even if every bag of UN flour had been collected and handed out, and the GHF had developed safe systems for equitable distribution, starvation was inevitable. Palestinians did not have enough to eat.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/31/the-mathematic...

Oh yes and the closed-doors, Jewish-only property-expos in America at the moment offering properties in illegally occupied Palestinian territories are just one more piece of that biased media I suppose.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1mmilhz/property...

Really looking forward to 'Stealing Sunset' - where Indya Moore, Rain Dove and Heydon Prowse posed as real estate influencers to gain access to the Israeli realtors, hoteliers and developers making a killing from real estate and tourism on Palestinian land.

They included Tomer Mor Yosef, VP of Kass Group, who developed the ‘Magic Kass’ mall, hotel and amusement park in the West Bank); Ze’ev Epshtein, owner of Harey Zahav, who infamously photoshopped blueprints for beach front villas on the bombed out ruins of Gaza; and Shelly Levine, one of Israel’s leading realtors for overseas purchasers in illegal West Bank settlements.

https://operationsunbird.com/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/stealing-sunset#/

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hellojesus ◴[] No.45275916{3}[source]
Don't other countries border Gaza? Why can't food flow through Egypt?

I see lots of blame on Isreal, but to me it seems Isreal was provoked into this fight, and the other countries bordering Gaza are unwilling to take refugees or help in any meaningful way. It is odd to me that Isreal is taking the blame for actions clearly endorsed by anyone that has to deal with Gazans. Is it because they are the ones taking action?

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1. lenkite ◴[] No.45276445{4}[source]
> Don't other countries border Gaza? Why can't food flow through Egypt?

Even the most simplest of research would give you the answer to that question. The main escape/aid route from Egypt to Gaza is the Rafah crossing. This is now de-facto controlled by Israel.

Israel requires that aid from Egypt go through security checks, customs clearances, etc. There have already been dozens of reported instances where food from Egypt has gotten spoiled waiting for clearance. It was sensational news earlier, but folks have mostly given up reporting on this now. It is clear that Israel wants Palestine to suffer.

> It is odd to me that Isreal is taking the blame for actions clearly endorsed by anyone that has to deal with Gazans.

Pardon me, but I didn't know that Egypt and other neighbours were bombing Gaza. Can you give me relevant citations ? I mean the nation-state bombing Gaza and controlling its access to food would logically take the blame for massive civilian casualties and famine right ? Or does your supreme logic lead to another interpretation ? Kindly explain your chain of reasoning for enlightenment.

> other countries bordering Gaza are unwilling to take refugees

My apologies, but this is unforgivable ignorance. Please be aware that Egypt has taken >100k Palestinian refugees since 2023. I don't have the recent figures for Jordan, but they have taken in millions of Palestinian refugees over the last couple of decades.