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dluan ◴[] No.45271565[source]
Seeing PG slowly turn on this issue, from nothing into recognition and now into advocacy has been wild. Presumably because he has kids, and like many parents you understand with your eyes first, and then your heart.

PG wields some amount of power in SV, but YC and others are still inextricably tied to what's happening. Thiel was just in Israel with elad gil, rabois, alex karp, joe lonsdale. It's just too much to list.

I guess my point is when does recognition turn into action.

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nakamoto_damacy ◴[] No.45273157[source]
I used to shame PG for his elitist views. Now I celebrate his moral courage.

One man cannot fix everything.

Dear PG (I'm sure you don't read HN, but this is yet another echo),

As I said on X, your own platform (YCombinator) is still full of hateful bigots who would censor/downvote even the mildest form of speaking against the genocide. Proof: this comment being downvoted. Downvoting as a mechanism is akin to censorship. It's being abused.

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adastra22 ◴[] No.45273365[source]
Having a difference of opinion on a very complicated geopolitical situation that is the culmination of a century of regional conflict is not being a "hateful bigot" or abuse.
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nakamoto_damacy ◴[] No.45273407[source]
Genocide is not complicated.
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adastra22[dead post] ◴[] No.45273595[source]
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piltdownman ◴[] No.45273936[source]
When Daniella Weiss explains that the purpose of the settlements is to "change the reality on the ground", it's probably best to believe her.

//Yet this is what the grocery stores look like, as of two weeks ago

Israel has systematically obstructed food entering Gaza, in the easily-confirmed words of Daniela Weiss again “THE ARABS WILL MOVE, DON'T GIVE THEM FOOD.”

In terms of qualifying a Famine, all three criteria have been met long-since.

Starvation: At least 1 in 5 households face an extreme shortage in their consumption of food

Malnutrition: Roughly 1 in 3 children or more are acutely malnourished

Mortality: At least 2 in every 10,000 people are dying daily because of outright starvation or the combination of malnutrition and disease

"BBC -How Israel's policies created famine in Gaza" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg4p90z1kxo

The figure _compiled and published by Israel_ confirms it. Between March and June, Israel allowed just 56k tonnes of food to enter the territory; less than a quarter of Gaza’s minimum needs for that period.

Even if every bag of UN flour had been collected and handed out, and the GHF had developed safe systems for equitable distribution, starvation was inevitable. Palestinians did not have enough to eat.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/31/the-mathematic...

Oh yes and the closed-doors, Jewish-only property-expos in America at the moment offering properties in illegally occupied Palestinian territories are just one more piece of that biased media I suppose.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1mmilhz/property...

Really looking forward to 'Stealing Sunset' - where Indya Moore, Rain Dove and Heydon Prowse posed as real estate influencers to gain access to the Israeli realtors, hoteliers and developers making a killing from real estate and tourism on Palestinian land.

They included Tomer Mor Yosef, VP of Kass Group, who developed the ‘Magic Kass’ mall, hotel and amusement park in the West Bank); Ze’ev Epshtein, owner of Harey Zahav, who infamously photoshopped blueprints for beach front villas on the bombed out ruins of Gaza; and Shelly Levine, one of Israel’s leading realtors for overseas purchasers in illegal West Bank settlements.

https://operationsunbird.com/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/stealing-sunset#/

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velcrohn ◴[] No.45276111{3}[source]
Just to address one of your points: 2 in every 10,000 people are dying daily. With a population of 2.1 million, that fraction is 420 people a day. Can you provide a source for that claim? Your link to the Guardian has roughly 20% of that number, which was provided by Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health

There is certainly hunger. It is an active war zone. But your numbers are grossly exaggerated.

When you mention the relatively small amount food entering between March and June, you neglect to mention the 6 months supply of food that was provided in January. That seems to be an important factor.

Also of note - there have been warnings of imminent mass starvation in Gaza since October 2023, and none of those warnings came about until recently, at which point Israel increased the amount of food entering Gaza.

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1. piltdownman ◴[] No.45276293{4}[source]
You carefully avoided the actual BBC citation directly underneath, which links to the IPC report and a separate BBC article I link now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05ed5rgld3o

The IPC (Integrated Food Security Phase Classification) report issued on August 22, 2025, confirmed Famine (IPC Phase 5) in Gaza Governorate, marking the first official famine declaration in the Middle East. The report, based on a special snapshot for the period of July-September 2025, projected famine to expand to other governorates and highlighted catastrophic levels of acute food insecurity, particularly among children

IPC Report Confirms Famine in Gaza: Joint Statement by UN Security Council 14 Members https://www.un.org/unispal/document/joint-press-statement-se...

As you're a green account, I won't be responding to any more of your ghoulish bad-faith engagements.

// The United Nations chief has described the famine confirmed in Gaza City and its surrounding areas as a "failure of humanity".

Antonio Gutteres said the situation was a "man-made disaster" after a UN-backed body, which identifies hunger levels around the world, raised its food insecurity status in parts of the territory to Phase 5 - the highest and most severe.

The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) says more than half a million people across Gaza are facing "catastrophic" conditions characterised by "starvation, destitution and death".

The report was labelled an "outright lie" by Israel, which has denied there is starvation in the territory.//