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dluan ◴[] No.45271565[source]
Seeing PG slowly turn on this issue, from nothing into recognition and now into advocacy has been wild. Presumably because he has kids, and like many parents you understand with your eyes first, and then your heart.

PG wields some amount of power in SV, but YC and others are still inextricably tied to what's happening. Thiel was just in Israel with elad gil, rabois, alex karp, joe lonsdale. It's just too much to list.

I guess my point is when does recognition turn into action.

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nakamoto_damacy ◴[] No.45273157[source]
I used to shame PG for his elitist views. Now I celebrate his moral courage.

One man cannot fix everything.

Dear PG (I'm sure you don't read HN, but this is yet another echo),

As I said on X, your own platform (YCombinator) is still full of hateful bigots who would censor/downvote even the mildest form of speaking against the genocide. Proof: this comment being downvoted. Downvoting as a mechanism is akin to censorship. It's being abused.

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adastra22 ◴[] No.45273365[source]
Having a difference of opinion on a very complicated geopolitical situation that is the culmination of a century of regional conflict is not being a "hateful bigot" or abuse.
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nakamoto_damacy ◴[] No.45273407[source]
Genocide is not complicated.
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adastra22[dead post] ◴[] No.45273595[source]
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piltdownman ◴[] No.45273936[source]
When Daniella Weiss explains that the purpose of the settlements is to "change the reality on the ground", it's probably best to believe her.

//Yet this is what the grocery stores look like, as of two weeks ago

Israel has systematically obstructed food entering Gaza, in the easily-confirmed words of Daniela Weiss again “THE ARABS WILL MOVE, DON'T GIVE THEM FOOD.”

In terms of qualifying a Famine, all three criteria have been met long-since.

Starvation: At least 1 in 5 households face an extreme shortage in their consumption of food

Malnutrition: Roughly 1 in 3 children or more are acutely malnourished

Mortality: At least 2 in every 10,000 people are dying daily because of outright starvation or the combination of malnutrition and disease

"BBC -How Israel's policies created famine in Gaza" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg4p90z1kxo

The figure _compiled and published by Israel_ confirms it. Between March and June, Israel allowed just 56k tonnes of food to enter the territory; less than a quarter of Gaza’s minimum needs for that period.

Even if every bag of UN flour had been collected and handed out, and the GHF had developed safe systems for equitable distribution, starvation was inevitable. Palestinians did not have enough to eat.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/31/the-mathematic...

Oh yes and the closed-doors, Jewish-only property-expos in America at the moment offering properties in illegally occupied Palestinian territories are just one more piece of that biased media I suppose.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/1mmilhz/property...

Really looking forward to 'Stealing Sunset' - where Indya Moore, Rain Dove and Heydon Prowse posed as real estate influencers to gain access to the Israeli realtors, hoteliers and developers making a killing from real estate and tourism on Palestinian land.

They included Tomer Mor Yosef, VP of Kass Group, who developed the ‘Magic Kass’ mall, hotel and amusement park in the West Bank); Ze’ev Epshtein, owner of Harey Zahav, who infamously photoshopped blueprints for beach front villas on the bombed out ruins of Gaza; and Shelly Levine, one of Israel’s leading realtors for overseas purchasers in illegal West Bank settlements.

https://operationsunbird.com/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/stealing-sunset#/

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hellojesus ◴[] No.45275916{3}[source]
Don't other countries border Gaza? Why can't food flow through Egypt?

I see lots of blame on Isreal, but to me it seems Isreal was provoked into this fight, and the other countries bordering Gaza are unwilling to take refugees or help in any meaningful way. It is odd to me that Isreal is taking the blame for actions clearly endorsed by anyone that has to deal with Gazans. Is it because they are the ones taking action?

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1. piltdownman ◴[] No.45276125{4}[source]
Why can't food flow through Egypt? Before the war started, Israel restricted all access to and from Gaza by sea and air and had land crossings under tight control. It had two functional crossings with the enclave: Erez, which was for the movement of people, and Kerem Shalom, for goods. Gaza has a single crossing with Egypt, at Rafah, which was run by Egyptian authorities. As of July 2025 it is 'managed' by the Gaza Division of the IDF

Aid delivery via Rafah is hampered by the fact that the Rafah crossing is designed as an entry point for people, not goods, making it difficult for large convoys to pass through.

The Rafah crossing has been repeatedly bombed, causing disruptions in aid - not to mention deliberate bombing attacks as Israel forces Palestinians to flee via Rafah, and then bombs the crossing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-bomb-rafah-cros...

The war has prompted Israel to conduct more stringent checks on aid as it seeks to prevent the entry of what it calls “dual-use equipment,” products it says are “intended for civilian use but liable to serve military needs for the strengthening of Hamas.”

Trucks carrying aid must pass through three layers of inspection before they can enter the enclave, Griffiths, the UN under-secretary-general, has said.

This is further compounded by Israel's draconian 'dual-use' inspections which create intentional bottlenecks at the Rafah crossing, supposedly prevent the entry of what it calls “dual-use equipment,” products it says are “intended for civilian use but liable to serve military needs for the strengthening of Hamas.”

Among items deemed “dual use” by Israel are power generators, crutches, field hospital kits, inflatable water tanks, wooden boxes of children’s toys and, “perhaps most depressingly, 600 oxygen tanks.”

https://www.wfp.org/stories/hungers-border-why-aid-trucks-ta...

Provocation or any other citable action may explain, but in no way excuses, the war crime of collective punishment. No one other than Zionists have endorsed war crimes as the way to 'deal with Gazans'.

Israel are 'taking the blame' because they are committing war crimes with impunity, including the murder and subsequent coverup of journalists and aid workers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/10/how-palestin...

As for the unwillingness to take refugees, that is simply facilitating the endgame of Israel - the depopulation of Palestine and contested territories.