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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Gareth321 ◴[17 Sep 25 10:14 UTC] No.45273927[source]▶
The Chair of this "independent" inquiry is Navi Pillay of South Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_International_Comm...); the nation which accused Israel of genocide and referred it to the ICJ. The outcome of this inquiry was always going to be highly partisan. The report's definition rests upon statements by key Israeli officials in determining genocidal intent. While the statements are accurate, in a democracy, individual representatives do not constitute a single will. If the standard used here were applied to other international conflicts in which civilians were killed, as long as just one governing official were to have made genocidal remarks (and they used a fairly wide range), the entire conflict could be ruled to be genocide. Thus the standard used by Pillay and co-authors is so far removed from anything applied to any other nation and conflict that I find the entire exercise farcical.

I await the ICJ ruling, as I regard that institution as reasonably impartial.

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michaelsshaw ◴[17 Sep 25 10:30 UTC] No.45274040[source]▶
Amnesty International, The International Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders, numerous other human rights organizations and world governments all say the same thing: genocide. To deny this is to say that you believe all of those groups are wrong and it is actually Netanyahu, Trump, Biden and Harris, along with their cronies in congress are correct. It is a position that cannot be defended logically.
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diordiderot[dead post] ◴[17 Sep 25 10:55 UTC] No.45274185[source]▶
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mvdwoord ◴[17 Sep 25 11:50 UTC] No.45274654[source]▶
Indeed.. besides the herd mentality, and obvious bias in all of these authorities, what irks me most is the complete and utter randomness of the outrage over Gaza.

I'm sure horrible things happen there, also that Israel plays dirty, but the selectiveness of the outrage, and complete silence on similar situations, or for that matter, the United States foreign policy of the past century...

I honestly don't care what happens there. I've seen and read enough to know that the conflicts in the region are so ideological that trying to project any rationality on them is effectively moot.

How come so many Ukrainians were accepted into their neighbor countries when Russia invaded, and apparently none of the neighbors want to have anything to do with the Palestinians?

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1. mackeye ◴[17 Sep 25 13:02 UTC] No.45275342[source]▶
if you can't find rationality (or the root of ideology) in either side of the conflict, you haven't tried particularly hard.

israel's existence and industry is in the interest of the global bourgeoise. "what to do" with the palestinians they displaced has lingered until they were boldened enough by their utter impunity to enact the measures they've taken. israel is the final "classically" imperial nation: to proceed in any manner which favors the palestinians remotely strips the modern colonial empire of its credulity in its own eternal existence.

hamas is an anti-colonial bourgeois movement, of which we've seen many. their are less reactionary elements within the palestinian resistance as well. this pattern has emerged many times in e.g. north africa, what's unique about palestine is that its anti-colonial war has persisted 60 years past the ends of the others.

colonialism is suffocation. it serves only the u.s., israel, etc., to see it as a tit for tat and shield your eyes from any news out of the entire region.

...and, your last sentence is unreal, to be honest. it's a genocide, and you're curious why no one would like to take the unfortunate undesirables at the receiver's end? are you so immune to ideology?