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Gareth321 ◴[] No.45273927[source]
The Chair of this "independent" inquiry is Navi Pillay of South Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_International_Comm...); the nation which accused Israel of genocide and referred it to the ICJ. The outcome of this inquiry was always going to be highly partisan. The report's definition rests upon statements by key Israeli officials in determining genocidal intent. While the statements are accurate, in a democracy, individual representatives do not constitute a single will. If the standard used here were applied to other international conflicts in which civilians were killed, as long as just one governing official were to have made genocidal remarks (and they used a fairly wide range), the entire conflict could be ruled to be genocide. Thus the standard used by Pillay and co-authors is so far removed from anything applied to any other nation and conflict that I find the entire exercise farcical.

I await the ICJ ruling, as I regard that institution as reasonably impartial.

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1. mattlutze ◴[] No.45275059[source]
In this situation, where you advocate for waiting until a different organization gives its opinion: while waiting, will net-more harm have occurred if Israel

1. reduces the volume and density of violence being acted on that territory, or 2. continues, as it is currently doing, to increase the volume and density of violence being acted on that territory

Is there a different answer, should this other organization’s opinion affirm or refute genocide?

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2. Gareth321 ◴[] No.45289423[source]
Israel is under no obligation to stop. Not because of this report, nor even in the case of an ICJ ruling. I say I am waiting for the ICJ ruling to make up my mind on the matter. The rulings are inconsequential as far as the conflict.