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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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1332 points Qem | 2 comments | 16 Sep 25 08:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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ipaddr ◴[16 Sep 25 19:54 UTC] No.45267137[source]▶
Wonder why this made the frontpage when other political articles die.

Has the rules around political non technical articles changed? Can we get an Epstein thread for the frontpage sometime this week?

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JumpCrisscross ◴[16 Sep 25 21:50 UTC] No.45268612[source]▶
For me, this is meaningful because for the first time a legitimate international body is calling this a genocide.

Previously, it’s been activists and claims that this might be genocide. I haven’t read the report yet. But I will, and I intend to leave my mind open as to whether this raises the profile of this war in my mind relative to domestic issues.

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dotancohen ◴[16 Sep 25 22:14 UTC] No.45268906[source]▶
Go read this UNHCR report. All the evidence is just circular references to other bodies who reference each other. The most damning thing they could pin on Israel was that "Israel admits 83% of the casualties are civilians". That idea was because Israel could name 17% of the casualties in Hamas registers as members of the organization. But assuming that every other casualty is a civilian is quite a stretch. For one thing, Israel doesn't know the name of every militant it kills while he's aiming an RPG at them. For another, there are many other militant organizations in the strip, notably the Islamic Jihad. For a third, typically 75% - 90% of the casualties of war are civilians by the UN's own numbers.
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1. ignoramous ◴[17 Sep 25 09:18 UTC] No.45273572[source]▶
> Go read this UNHCR report. All the evidence is just circular references to other bodies who reference each other...

You think Navi Pillay, who was the President on the Rwanda Tribunal (for genocide), is less competent than you & would sign off on mere "circular references"?

> For one thing, Israel doesn't know the name of every militant it kills

Does it at least know who it is raping?

  The commission has previously found Israel to be guilty of crimes against humanity and war crimes in Gaza, including extermination, torture, rape, sexual violence and other inhumane acts, inhuman treatment, forcible transfer, persecution based on gender and starvation as a method of warfare.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-867600
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2. dotancohen ◴[18 Sep 25 01:45 UTC] No.45283965[source]▶

  > You think Navi Pillay, who was the President on the Rwanda Tribunal (for genocide), is less competent than you & would sign off on mere "circular references"?
No, I do not think that Navi Pillay is less competent than me. I do however see that she signed off on circular references. Her competence has little to do with her motivations.

  > Does it at least know who it is raping?
Yes. The single incident of rape - a group of soldiers ramming a broomstick up the ass of a captured terrorist who had murdered people - was done by known soldiers and they are being prosecuted. And we know the identity of the man who was raped.