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xyzelement ◴[] No.45269417[source]
There's a bit of an IQ test with this stuff. Obviously Israel and Hamas will both say whatever is most advantageous to them - of course one side will claim genocide and one will deny it, neither is meaningful.

A friend was telling me that Gaza has been starving for for 2 years so we looked back on the headlines and they said "brink of starvation" - so like - being on the brink for 2 years means you weren't on the brink?

Lastly Israel is clearly less restrained now than I've ever seen it. But like they were accused of genocide forever. So those accusations were false but now it's really happening? But if they had been restrained all along then they are the moral party?

I am not trying to persuade for a side it's just funny how so many posters here are like "ohhh we have the real and moral information here" when it's obvious that's not even available.

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fahhem ◴[] No.45269754[source]
You can be kept on the brink of starvation just like you can keep a cup hanging over the edge of a table. It's a manufactured famine, therefore it can be created with precision. Unlike the potato famine in Ireland, it's controlled and they literally count calories going in (before cutting it to 0).
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xyzelement ◴[] No.45270869[source]
So according to that logic, Israel is intentionally orchestrating a "brink of starvation" which generates for it negative publicity but is very careful to ensure nobody actually starves. Why would be the strategy in that according to you?
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1. fahhem ◴[] No.45272666[source]
Because they thought actual famine would be worse. They didn't realize how little the US would care.
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2. xyzelement ◴[] No.45274368[source]
I think there's something to the IQ comment I made earlier. If adversary A claims the adversary B is doing a terrible thing, that thing doesn't materialize, the smart money isn't to be like "oh well B is only not doing it because they are sinister."

Or say another way - if "they are evil" whether they do X or opposite of X, whoever is setting up that story for you is full of shit.