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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266704[source]
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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mandeepj ◴[] No.45268633[source]
> The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.

Ironically, that was one of the biggest campaign points and voter sentiment on which people flipped to Red. We all know what happened.

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GoatInGrey ◴[] No.45268800[source]
People didn't flip to red so much as blue voters in swing states sitting on their hands and abstaining from voting. Now they're looking down the barrel of authoritarianism and they're still unwilling to vote unless Gaza is a fully solved problem. The cruel irony is that this behavior is worsening the situation in Gaza.
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scarecrowbob ◴[] No.45269861{3}[source]
Couldn't the Democrats change their positions so that they align with and accommodate popular positions and win elections. I don't think most of the (rather large block) of folks I know who abstained wanted a fully solved problem, they wanted the US to stop funding Israel and that is a position that the Democratic party could have taken if they had chosen to do so.
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throwawaygmbno ◴[] No.45271121{4}[source]
Black people have known for decades, you vote for the people that don't actively hate you.

Sitting out of the process does absolutely nothing, whether its a protest vote, pretending that politics don't affect you, or just giving up completely. The people who get elected in those situations always 100% ignore you.

When people are in office that are at least willing to listen, you then make a lot of noise and put on pressure. You might get ignored mostly, since you are a minority voting block, but you can make incremental gains and even sometimes big wins.

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metalcrow ◴[] No.45271239{5}[source]
what do you do if both sides actively hate you? voting for the lesser of the two evils seems to just guarantee evil forever, and they have no reason to listen to you if they know you'll always vote for them.
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throwawaygmbno ◴[] No.45271377{6}[source]
You also do what black people have known since the civil war ended. You run for office. Hispanic Americans have learned this and their voices are now heard, Asian Americans also seem to finally understand this point. Gay Americans and other minorities are also running and winning. The answer is to never sit out.
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1. tehjoker ◴[] No.45271468{7}[source]
Somehow this long hundred year process has resulted in genocide, so it seems something is broken.
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2. throwawaygmbno ◴[] No.45271545[source]
Are you complaining in this post about the suffering of Gaza while downplaying the suffering of black people in the US and the work black people have done? Because you think its productive to pit the different groups against each other?
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3. scarecrowbob ◴[] No.45271866[source]
Honestly, I have listened to and sought out a lot of diverse voices because I'm genuinely curious.

I certainly found plenty of folks who were not only okay with the DNC's position but who were actively happy with Harris as the nominee.

Black people are, however, not a monolith. I'm quite aware of the differences between the many different sets of ideas (everything from hoteps to DNC-paid shills to people who genuinely liked the Harris platform to black anarchists/commiunists/ ex-panthers/ etc) and it's highly reductive to try to make the claims you're making here about "what black folks have learned".

As a person who genuinely believes actual leftist (communist and anarchist) politics are legitimate I found plenty of folks who abstained or tried to hold the DNS to change their policy.

But regardless of the "harm reduction strategies" or how legitimate you think having any semblance of political representation, the fact remains:

the democrats lost.

Unless you want to concede that "the party can only be failed, it cannot fail the people", the reality is that the party could have changed its policies and accommodated groups that abstained and perhaps won.

You can claim that the voters are just fools, but at the end of the day very few of us have any power at all over the DNC platform so it's simply bizarre to blame us for their horrible, provable failed choices.