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yieldcrv ◴[] No.45260020[source]
Useless except if the following done on the US side:

Remove exception to AIPAC political status

Reevaluate AIPAC non profit status entirely

Replicate EO 14046 for Israel which adds the entire ruling party and head of state and spouses and military and affiliated business to the OFAC list

all of this is easy and doesn’t require Congress

but nobody is close to considering those actions with regard to Israel. Notably, other nation’s organizations do not enjoy this courtesy

(Don’t sorry guys, Hamas is already on these lists too)

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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266764[source]
Voters can take a stand and refuse to vote for anyone complicit in this atrocity.
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imglorp ◴[] No.45267315[source]
In the US, both parties were supportive in the last election. Not many choices.
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actionfromafar ◴[] No.45267423[source]
One party had a long leash. The other cut the leash and yelled attaboy.

Now acting mildly concerned when the neighbour downstreet (Qatar) got their chickens bombed.

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IncreasePosts ◴[] No.45268462[source]
Why shouldn't Hamas leadership be bombed wherever they may be? They're the leaders of a terrorist organization. The US takes out terrorists wherever they may be (or, works with local authorities to get them first). But, when local authorities are siding with the terrorists, we go in there and do it ourselves. October 7th was Israel's 9/11 - we went and got bin Laden in Pakistan, without dealing with the Pakistani government. Why shouldn't Israel do the same thing? I say - kill all the Hamas leadership, and leave the random Palestinian citizens alone.
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kayodelycaon ◴[] No.45269345[source]
We have bombed their leadership. This is an entirely different war. Hamas was/is the government of Gaza. They're part of the people there, not outside it.

You're trying to fight an organization that is part of the civilian population, not above it or outside of it. And that organization is deliberately using human shields to blur the lines even further.

It's not easy to figure out who's a random Palestinian or who's going to fire a rocket into Israel five years from now. If we want to keep bombing our way to victory, that's going to continue down the road of genocide.

Humanity needs to be better than this. We need to be better than this.

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fahhem ◴[] No.45269764[source]
I can turn anyone, including you, into "someone who will fire a rocket in 5 years". Give me US backing and I can do it in 4
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kayodelycaon ◴[] No.45270031{3}[source]
Out of curiosity, how would you plan to do that?

You know nothing about me.

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1. churchill ◴[] No.45270310{4}[source]
>I can turn anyone, including you, into "someone who will fire a rocket in 5 years". Give me US backing and I can do it in 4

Echoing OP's point, I can turn you into a person who'll fire a rocket in a year, even. Go read through B'Tselem's reports of Israel's torture camps [0] where tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians are systematically raped, murdered, and abused as a matter of state policy. By the time you undergo that from youth, with half the people in your family gone for years, imprisoned in such camps, while half the kids you grew up with have died in senseless state-sanctioned murder, you'll be ready to do something worse that firing rockets.

Of course, you'll argue, from a sheltered perspective that you wouldn't ever do something like that. So, what will you do instead of fighting back? Sue? LMAO. Protest? You'll get shot. Just focus on building a family? Your home will get demolished or bombed just because.

[0]: https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell