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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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1332 points Qem | 10 comments | 16 Sep 25 08:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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therobots927 ◴[16 Sep 25 19:22 UTC] No.45266704[source]▶
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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mandeepj ◴[16 Sep 25 21:52 UTC] No.45268633[source]▶
> The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.

Ironically, that was one of the biggest campaign points and voter sentiment on which people flipped to Red. We all know what happened.

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GoatInGrey ◴[16 Sep 25 22:05 UTC] No.45268800[source]▶
People didn't flip to red so much as blue voters in swing states sitting on their hands and abstaining from voting. Now they're looking down the barrel of authoritarianism and they're still unwilling to vote unless Gaza is a fully solved problem. The cruel irony is that this behavior is worsening the situation in Gaza.
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deanCommie ◴[16 Sep 25 22:33 UTC] No.45269124[source]▶
And that was always known to have been a counter-productive protest. There's nothing ironic about this. They were told. They didn't care.

It was unambiguously clear that no matter how bad you felt Obama/Biden/Harris were on Israel, Trump was/would be worse.

If every single human life is worth saving (and it is), it's indisputable that Trump is worse for Gaza than Harris would have been.

It was the ultimate Trolley Problem, and a bunch of progressives acted like pulling the switch on move the trolley is NEVER acceptable regardless of how many lives it saves...

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1. protocolture ◴[16 Sep 25 23:49 UTC] No.45269809[source]▶
The Dems being willing to lose elections rather than meet voter expectations, says more about them than it does any particular voting or non voting group.
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2. SilverElfin ◴[17 Sep 25 02:07 UTC] No.45270738[source]▶
Have you considered that it isn’t voter expectation outside of a small minority of the party?
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3. DangitBobby ◴[17 Sep 25 02:44 UTC] No.45271019[source]▶
Maybe at the time it was. Not so much anymore.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/support-for-israel-contin...

4. protocolture ◴[17 Sep 25 02:58 UTC] No.45271103[source]▶
Have you considered that if they lose an election without that minority, then they still lose the election.

Like a political partys job is to get votes. An electorates job is to withhold votes to punish poor performance. The entity not doing their job here is the party.

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5. jfengel ◴[17 Sep 25 03:41 UTC] No.45271404{3}[source]▶
The political party's job is to get votes. Which includes keeping the votes they already have. Giving things to one wing of the party can cost votes to the other wing.

The party is aware of the trade-offs. It goes ahead with its best estimation of what will win. Sometimes they can do everything right and still lose. One such scenario is when people would rather have the greater of two evils rather than be responsible for the lesser.

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6. protocolture ◴[17 Sep 25 04:00 UTC] No.45271514{4}[source]▶
Sure and its possible thats what happened. But looking at their behaviour, its more like they thought they could use Trump to force everyone to fall in behind them regardless of policy.
7. underlipton ◴[17 Sep 25 04:41 UTC] No.45271748{4}[source]▶
The only way Democrats would have lost votes is if the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" folk weren't really prepared to vote blue, no matter who. Democrats didn't lose their base, they lost their left; theoretically, there's no leftist policy they could take on that would lose them their base, because it's their base.
8. Peritract ◴[17 Sep 25 08:38 UTC] No.45273361{4}[source]▶
That was (potentially) a reasonable argument before the election, but the election happened and we know the results.

"We can't adopt [potentially winning strategy] because it might harm [definitely non-winning strategy]" is not a reasonable position. You don't have to adopt any specific alternative plan, but clinging to a non-working plan clearly isn't the right answer.

9. vFunct ◴[18 Sep 25 03:44 UTC] No.45285104[source]▶
Why would Dems want Zionists to win?
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10. protocolture ◴[18 Sep 25 05:13 UTC] No.45285690[source]▶
I think the dems would be much happier if all foreign issues just went away somewhere. I dont accuse them of having any firm position on anything.