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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266704[source]
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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beloch ◴[] No.45267542[source]
Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly.

Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Netanyahu has, to date, handled Trump deftly and Rubio's current presence in Israel seems to be aimed at offering support to the ground offensive, not opposition. I honestly have no idea what kind of backlash it would take to shake U.S. support for this genocide.

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dlubarov ◴[] No.45268075[source]
Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.
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Braxton1980 ◴[] No.45268965[source]
Israel needs to take a more precise approach to getting rid of Hamas.
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dotancohen[dead post] ◴[] No.45269339[source]
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nick_ ◴[] No.45269479[source]
People who think it's acceptable to bomb civilian residential areas flat because they're "booby trapped" are lost souls.
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1. dotancohen ◴[] No.45269533[source]
Those booby traps also kill Gazan children. Did you see that recent video of the Gazan girl getting blown to bits? They tried to pin it on Israel, but it was a Hamas IED. That's why there was a camera pointed at it.
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2. 8note ◴[] No.45269614[source]
sorry, is this an argument that no israeli explosions are caught on camera? that seems unlikely
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3. nobankai ◴[] No.45269635[source]
You are talking to an ex-IDF member who is being deliberately obtuse.
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4. dotancohen ◴[] No.45270033[source]
No, this is what Gazans in Gaza say. They say that the camera was pointed at the IED location to film Israeli soldiers tripping it.
5. tdeck ◴[] No.45270460[source]
Imagine having your comment history and pretending to care about children in Gaza being blown to bits. Unreal.
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6. dotancohen ◴[] No.45270639{3}[source]
In what sense am I being obtuse? By actually talking to Gazans?
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7. SilverElfin ◴[] No.45270846[source]
Do you care about the safety and security of people in Israel? What would you do if a fundamentalist group shot thousands of rockets into your town over a decade?
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8. mirekrusin ◴[] No.45271825{4}[source]
The question was what would you do, not what you wouldn't do.
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9. Braxton1980 ◴[] No.45272021[source]
Why does this matter?

This is an argument that Hamas is bad not why buildings need to be destroyed

10. tdeck ◴[] No.45272136{5}[source]
What would you do if you were a southern governor responding to a slave revolt? It's the same kind of question. I wouldn't build my society on ethnic supremacy and then seek to maintain that through force.
11. DiogenesKynikos ◴[] No.45272212{3}[source]
What would you do if you were expelled from your homeland at gunpoint by foreign settlers, and then 19 years later, your refugee camp was conquered by the very same people, who then ruled over you using brute military force for nearly 60 years, with no end in sight?
12. linehedonist ◴[] No.45285825{3}[source]
If I lived in a bad neighborhood, I would leave. Why don’t Israelis?