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eej71 ◴[] No.45267482[source]
It's always useful to balance these claims against their critics.

Towards that end I offer up unwatch.

https://unwatch.org/

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DaveExeter ◴[] No.45267692[source]
Isn't that an Israeli "hasbara" site? The Israelis have admitted that they use the false cry of "antisemitism" to attack.

"Calling it antisemitism - it’s a trick we always use." Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli Minister

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1896748975207952758

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dotancohen ◴[] No.45268550[source]
If we're on the subject of damning historic quotes, I've got one for you:

  > Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.
- Hamas founding charter
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ViewTrick1002 ◴[] No.45268659[source]
Of course ignoring that Hamas was deliberately funded by Israel to cause a split between the politics of the West Bank and Gaza to prevent a unified political authority in Palestine.
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1. eej71 ◴[] No.45268786[source]
I can well imagine a parallel universe where Israel gave them NO money whatsoever. You know what would have happened? Hamas would do the usual Islamic fundamentalist thing. Form a terrorist group and attack Israel. And then media commentators and intellectuals would accuse Israel of failing to help Hamas get put on the right path by helping them at the start, and instead Israel's inaction was like strangling a baby in the cradle. Typical Israel! Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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2. FireBeyond ◴[] No.45285021[source]
Hamas had much less power.

You imagine the future that suits your perspective and act like it's a fait accompli.

In reality, the PLO would have (and had been) quelling Hamas effectively. And then they were sitting at the negotiating table (after a rather ugly period). So Israel was facing awkward questions of "If Arafat is willing to negotiate, why aren't you?", so the Israeli far right locked in on the idea of "surreptitiously fund Hamas against the PLA/PLO".

Your imaginings count for nothing, because they're just your preconceived notion.