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worldsavior[dead post] ◴[] No.45260183[source]
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orwin ◴[] No.45260977[source]
> I find it funny people still find the UN legitimate. They still haven't criticised Hamas attack

I find it funny that you have to lie so much. They did, it's easy to find. My father is from a Christian orphanage in east Jerusalem. My grandmother hosted sisters and priests from Israel who worked in schools, hospice and orphanage all over the two countries. UN school programs there had a lot of issues, but being religious (Hamas was a religious group before being a terrorist one) or close to Hamas wasn't one (having no heating in schools during winter and having to sometime amputate toes from 10 year old was probably the biggest issue that I remember).

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tguvot ◴[] No.45264460[source]
UNRWA schoolbooks for you: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/UNRWA-Education...

and first UN general assembly resolution condemning hamas attack is the one from the past week that speaks about recognition of palestinian state.

unless you can find different one

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1. xg15 ◴[] No.45268045[source]
I can't refute all their findings, but it's still worth looking at the board of that org:

https://www.impact-se.org/about-us/impact-se-board-members/

For an organization ostensibly concerned with education to violence everywhere, that's a LOT of board members with direct connections to Israel.

I also think it's common sense that if an occupying force deliberately ensures your living conditions become ever worse, shoots your friends and family to death for throwing stones and eventually obliterates entire families, that you don't exactly need textbooks to develop hatred.

As for "from the Nile to the Euphrates", just ask Daniella Weiss: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-10-21/ty-article-ma...

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2. tguvot ◴[] No.45268231[source]
"i can't refute the facts so i will have to do character assassination".

(i'll remind that those are books that are taught by UN agency)

the atlantic article from 1961 about unrwa camps showing that they were taught back than liberation of entire area by force and destruction of israel https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/archives/1961/10/208-4/132...

it's almost like if population is educated for violence for 50 years, it will behave violently and it will result in counter action from "occupying force"

on the other side, Israeli population is been subjected to palestinian violence for extended period. Pretty much everybody was either target of it or lost somebody to it.

Lets see what do we have in Israeli schoolbooks: https://www.impact-se.org/wp-content/uploads/Arabs-and-Pales...

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3. xg15 ◴[] No.45268353[source]
Yeah, they do that stuff in the pre-army courses instead.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-04/ty-article-op...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-09/ty-article-ma...

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4. tguvot ◴[] No.45268426{3}[source]
i am talking about systemic things in education system. not about random anecdotes. also good chunk of israeli population (and even bigger chunk of those serving in army) is secular and whatever random rabi says means nothing.

but kudos on shifting goal posts.