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The U.S. Government's Extraordinary Pursuit of Kilmar Ábrego García

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99 points mitchbob | 1 comments | 15 Sep 25 16:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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yannyu ◴[15 Sep 25 17:05 UTC] No.45252221[source]▶
In addition to everything that is terrifying about Kilmar Ábrego García's case, we have the VP and President of this country making clearly biased remarks on an active criminal case against a resident of the United States who is married to a US citizen. Is there a more clear case of violation of due process and civil rights?
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nickff ◴[15 Sep 25 17:36 UTC] No.45252596[source]▶
>" the VP and President of this country making clearly biased remarks on an active criminal case against a resident of the United States"

I am sorry to break it to you, but this happens all the time, and is not a violation of due process. You can find examples of many Presidents declaring opinions on the guilt or innocence of a variety of people before their trials. [1] It makes sense that this is allowed, as the Justice Department is a part of the Executive Branch, so all prosecutions are done with the tacit or explicit approval of the President. It would be more problematic if the judges in the case expressed views on guilt or innocence before hearing the case.

[1] https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/04/25/obama-decla...

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throwway120385 ◴[15 Sep 25 17:41 UTC] No.45252651[source]▶
Just because something is common, we shouldn't accept it if we believe it to be wrong. Slavery was once widely tolerated, as was marital rape. But people in those days decided that these things were wrong and should not be tolerated. Had they listened to arguments like yours we would still be living in those conditions.

There's also an argument to be made for holding our political officers to a much higher standard than the general populace.

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1. southernplaces7 ◴[15 Sep 25 17:48 UTC] No.45252751[source]▶
I don't see the comment's argument as being that this is okay because it's common. It's just pointing out that this is nothing completely new and that it's a shame that it gets pointed out in a selective way when it could have been called out even earlier under other administrations. That's completely fair if one genuinely cares about due process instead of just dogmatic sniping..