Why Apple Is Quietly Rewriting iOS in a Language You've Never Heard Of

1. robaato ◴[15 Sep 25 09:20 UTC] No.45247712[source]▶

How believable is this??

2. johndoe0815 ◴[15 Sep 25 09:31 UTC] No.45247787[source]▶

Apple spent a lot of effort adapting or creating languages, starting with Clascal/Object Pascal (or Woz' SWEET16 as an alternative high-level assembler-like intermediate language and 16-bit virtual machine) over Objective C (bought from Brad Cox and Tom Love and significantly extended/changed over the years) to Swift. They also used these languages to implement critical parts of the system software, e.g. for the Lisa or the NeXTstep ObjC-based driver framework.

So this speculation has quite some credibility - but, as the author states, I think this is still in an early stage and will take quite some time to become mature.

There are other people designing their own system-level language and OS, e.g. Drew DeVaults Hare and the Helios microkernel and Bunnix Unix clone based on Hare - this is a single person effort, so given Apple's resources, this is definitely feasible.

3. Someone ◴[15 Sep 25 10:47 UTC] No.45248205[source]▶

>>45247712 (TP) #

The rewriting: quite believable, but it will take a looooooooooooooong time, and their goals may change looooong before they get there.

It not being Swift: unlikely, IMO. They’re spending lots of resources on Swift-C++ interoperability, added lots of low-level stuff to Swift, and advertise Swift for embedded use on Swift.org,

I don’t see what another language could bring. I also do not see them rename embedded Swift to something else; it’s hard enough for them to make Swift get traction outside their ecosystem already.

Also note that the “New Apple Language (hypothetical)” sample already is valid Swift code.