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EU court rules nuclear energy is clean energy

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1041 points mpweiher | 4 comments | 12 Sep 25 18:18 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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m101 ◴[13 Sep 25 07:25 UTC] No.45230060[source]▶
I think a good exercise for the reader is to reflect on why they were ever against nuclear power in the first place. Nuclear power was always the greenest, most climate friendly, safest, cheapest (save for what we do to ourselves), most energy dense, most long lasting, option.
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kolinko ◴[13 Sep 25 09:25 UTC] No.45230658[source]▶
So far it was either the cheapest or the safest.

Also, solar is now both cheaper and safer.

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pzo ◴[13 Sep 25 09:39 UTC] No.45230728[source]▶
but it's not 24/7 and europe even worse in winter and fall. Solar is unrealistic to replace most energy usage [1]. In EU it's just less than 5% usage. In germany less than 6% usage. And wind is not a replacement either (less than 11% energy usage in germany).

And just for comparison in france nuclear power plants provides 37% of energy

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-consumption-by-sou...

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1. pfdietz ◴[13 Sep 25 12:33 UTC] No.45231542[source]▶
Yes, but all that can be taken into account in the analysis, and renewables and storage have become so cheap they're now the superior option.

Europe is in an inferior position in a renewable-powered world compared to many other locations. I wonder if some of the reactionary takes trying to promote nuclear are a consequence of that. I think you're average far right type is not going to be comfortable living in a relative energy ghetto.

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2. pzo ◴[13 Sep 25 14:32 UTC] No.45232374[source]▶
> Europe is in an inferior position in a renewable-powered world compared to many other locations.

Compared to who? In shared link you can see most countries are relying on non renewable energy. The better one is France (nuclear powered) and Norway (hydropowered).

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3. pfdietz ◴[13 Sep 25 20:01 UTC] No.45234882[source]▶
I was talking about the situation once fossil fuels are no longer used ("in a renewable powered world" was the relevant phrase). We are not yet in that situation, so your observation there is beside the point.
4. ZeroGravitas ◴[13 Sep 25 20:19 UTC] No.45235005[source]▶
Global solar potential atlas:

https://globalsolaratlas.info/

Solar is the current cheapest and will be the biggest source of electricity in 2033 and continue to accelerate away from others for the rest of the century.

Offshore wind helps their situation somewhat.