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1041 points mpweiher | 9 comments | 12 Sep 25 18:18 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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tietjens ◴[12 Sep 25 18:25 UTC] No.45225051[source]▶
Article claims Germany is beginning to shift. I wouldn’t count on that. Despite having to import all of their energy aside from renewables, there is a wide-spread suspicion of nuclear here. The CDU made a lot of noise about it while they were in the opposition, but turning those closed plants back on is highly unlikely. Very costly and I’m not certain the expertise can be hired.
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kulahan ◴[12 Sep 25 18:39 UTC] No.45225195[source]▶
With AI on the horizon and each server farm using as much energy as a medium-sized city, I have no idea how they hope to meet demand otherwise, unless the plan is just some equivalent to "drill baby drill".
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1. oceanplexian ◴[12 Sep 25 18:57 UTC] No.45225392[source]▶
It’s simple, Germany isn’t going to be participating in the next industrial revolution. It will be the US vs. China. You can already see it happening with their car industry as they struggle to keep up with new technology.
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2. bluGill ◴[12 Sep 25 19:36 UTC] No.45225820[source]▶
Germany doesn't need to participate in the next. They need to participate in something though. They are too small to do everything alone. Even the US depends on a lot of other countries to make things work.
3. standeven ◴[12 Sep 25 19:57 UTC] No.45226044[source]▶
If we’re looking at the car and energy industries, I think China has already won.
4. kulahan ◴[12 Sep 25 20:08 UTC] No.45226170[source]▶
Could you expand more on your car point? I thought BMW and Benz were doing great at the moment. I dunno much about Audi or VW, but Mini also seems to be doing well (which I thought was British, but one of their models has literally the same engine as my last bimmer, so I guess they were sold at some point?).
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5. carlhjerpe ◴[12 Sep 25 21:14 UTC] No.45226836[source]▶
Sure, talk to your grid operators about that! :)
6. simonklitj ◴[12 Sep 25 22:44 UTC] No.45227626[source]▶
Heh, it was bought by BMW in ‘94.
7. tietjens ◴[13 Sep 25 08:34 UTC] No.45230396[source]▶
The German car companies are struggling intensely against Chinese competition, everywhere outside of the US, and especially in China. The Chinese electric cars sell for 3 times less than the German ones in EU. The Chinese also invested heavily in e tech. The Germans? Not so much.
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8. kulahan ◴[13 Sep 25 23:37 UTC] No.45236193{3}[source]▶
Ah yeah, now that you mention it I’ve heard BYD is doing well in most markets (plus others, I assume). Even ignoring current tariffs, I’m not sure an overtly Chinese car would catch on in the US, but I’m pretty sure I’ve been wrong before.
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9. tietjens ◴[14 Sep 25 17:59 UTC] No.45241863{4}[source]▶
I believe that if allowed in, they would be competitive and that is why they are not allowed. And because of security claims.