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Debian 13, Postgres, and the US/* time zones

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ggm ◴[12 Sep 25 02:48 UTC] No.45218201[source]▶
Is there a problem with ISO3166 denoted information in general or is there a specific US issue here? I would think ISO code denoted tzdata was a public good in some sense.
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masklinn ◴[12 Sep 25 06:27 UTC] No.45219199[source]▶
All the legacy time zones were moved out of the default zoneinfo install. It’s not a us-specific issue but the legacy US/ timezones remain in widespread use, and they stop working on Debian 13 ootb (possibly Ubuntu noble as well?).
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pixelesque ◴[12 Sep 25 07:23 UTC] No.45219568[source]▶
Does anyone know why they are still in widespread use?

Config defaults somewhere still using them? Man page examples? Tutorials using them? Or just force of habit?

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fredoralive ◴[12 Sep 25 09:16 UTC] No.45220261[source]▶
I suspect some of it will be because the legacy form is a bit more intuitive than the standard form. You don’t really use continents and cities as a reference to time zones normally, countries and local subdivisions makes more sense, but as other people note, it brings up POLITICS.
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MartijnBraam ◴[12 Sep 25 09:40 UTC] No.45220424[source]▶
You don't use them normally in the US, I've been referring to europe/amsterdam or europe/paris all my life in Linux installers and various equipment. I've never ever encountered netherlands/amsterdam or something like that.
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1. umanwizard ◴[12 Sep 25 15:15 UTC] No.45223029[source]▶
It’s the same in Europe as it is in the US. Normal people refer to Europe/Paris as CET, just like normal people refer to America/New_York as Eastern Time.