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ManBeardPc ◴[] No.45209514[source]
Glad we could delay it for now. It will come back again and again with that high of support though. Also the German Bundestag is already discussing a compromise: https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1108356. They are only unhappy with certain points like breaking encryption. They still want to destroy privacy and cut back our rights in the name of "safety", just a little less.
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uyzstvqs ◴[] No.45209691[source]
The bigger issue is that we need to make the EU actually democratic. Start by removing every branch but the European Parliament. That's the only solution.
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mytailorisrich ◴[] No.45209801[source]
The only solution is to stop the EU level power grab by formally restricting what the EU can do and to make sure member states remain where most of the power lies.

The US have that. The EU does not so as time passes the EU's power keeps creeping up.

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saubeidl ◴[] No.45210851[source]
This feels like a recipe for dysfunction and more paralysis.

The reason nothing gets done in the EU is because the power is too decentralized and we're not all pulling in the same direction. We're getting stuck in petty national interests instead of the European cause.

The fix is the exact opposite - take power from the nation states and centralize it in the EU. There's a reason the US became a single country and not loosely associated states.

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1. nickslaughter02 ◴[] No.45211864[source]
> The reason nothing gets done in the EU is because the power is too decentralized and we're not all pulling in the same direction.

Look at what EU wants to do. I would be glad if nothing got done but unfortunately a lot of their horrible regulations do and Europeans suffer for it.

> The fix is the exact opposite - take power from the nation states and centralize it in the EU.

No.