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ManBeardPc ◴[] No.45209514[source]
Glad we could delay it for now. It will come back again and again with that high of support though. Also the German Bundestag is already discussing a compromise: https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1108356. They are only unhappy with certain points like breaking encryption. They still want to destroy privacy and cut back our rights in the name of "safety", just a little less.
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uyzstvqs ◴[] No.45209691[source]
The bigger issue is that we need to make the EU actually democratic. Start by removing every branch but the European Parliament. That's the only solution.
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mytailorisrich ◴[] No.45209801[source]
The only solution is to stop the EU level power grab by formally restricting what the EU can do and to make sure member states remain where most of the power lies.

The US have that. The EU does not so as time passes the EU's power keeps creeping up.

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immibis ◴[] No.45210051[source]
The EU is not sovereign. Member countries can just outright ignore EU law (see: Hungary or the former UK) and the only recourses are civil things like issuing declarations, withholding payments, crossing them off treaties, or kicking them out of the EU. There are no EU police that can be involuntarily forced on a country the same way the USA can send armed federal police or military into its states. Doing anything like that would be a declaration of war.

A state is a monopoly on violence and EU member states overwhelmingly control their own.

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1. croemer ◴[] No.45210528[source]
s/the former UK/formerly the UK/