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ManBeardPc ◴[] No.45209514[source]
Glad we could delay it for now. It will come back again and again with that high of support though. Also the German Bundestag is already discussing a compromise: https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1108356. They are only unhappy with certain points like breaking encryption. They still want to destroy privacy and cut back our rights in the name of "safety", just a little less.
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uyzstvqs ◴[] No.45209691[source]
The bigger issue is that we need to make the EU actually democratic. Start by removing every branch but the European Parliament. That's the only solution.
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1. johannes1234321 ◴[] No.45210195[source]
That would lead to turning EU from a union of states into a state in itself. This may be great, but would depower national states.

And it has a major problem: There is no European public. Cultural differences ad language barrier make it hard to follow debates and issues. It is a lot simpler to follow my elected governments behavior.

Also the parliament would lose its style of working. Currently there is cooperation accross parties and a less strict "government vs opposition" than in most other parliaments, which means that MEPs actually got a vote (in the areas where the parliament matters) instead dof being whipped by party leaders.

And then: Most decision power is with the council, which is made of democratically elected governments (if we ignore the Hungary problem ...)

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2. throw-the-towel ◴[] No.45210680[source]
How does Swiss politics work? They also have multiple languages.
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3. johannes1234321 ◴[] No.45210781[source]
They got 4 languages, not 24. Of those 4 there is one clearly dominant (German) and a clear second. Most debates happen in German.

With it's 24 languages the EU debates have interesting interpretation challenges, as they don't have interpreters for going from any language to any language, but often the translate first into one language (say from Latvian into German) and then some other language (German to Portuguese), which loses a lot of nuance and color from the language.

Also media can cover it better, with few languages and politicians can provide their press statements in those few languages.

And then culture is a lot more similar, which helps to identify the "relevant" topics and way to talk about it.